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Old 12-30-04, 05:25 PM   #16
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Linds, just open MS Word, Insert, Symbol, and it should be there. You may have to dig for it but on mine it's in the "recently used symbol" area because I've recently used it! lol

Or just copy it from here: ©

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Old 12-30-04, 05:42 PM   #17
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(You can actually just type (c) and MS Word will create the symbol for you It works for (r) as well.)
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Old 12-30-04, 05:44 PM   #18
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I use alt + 0169 in Photoshop..
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Old 12-31-04, 01:45 AM   #19
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Been a web designer and owned a domain for a whole week now eh Rikki?

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Not to mention you're dead wrong on copyright law. Perhaps it would be helpful if you didn't talk about stuff that you have no knowledge in? Then again, we'd likely never hear from you again if you did that.

Just to satisfy my own curiosity... do you ever NOT talk a pile of crap when you're posting?
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Old 12-31-04, 02:00 AM   #20
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Old 12-31-04, 05:53 AM   #21
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From LegalZoom.com:
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Material not protected by copyright purchase (or otherwise protected) is available for use by anyone, without the author's consent. On the other hand, an author of a copyrighted work may prevent others from copying, performing or otherwise using the work without the author's consent.
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According to LegalZoom you do not have to go through legal channels to secure a copyright, so please quote the proper info if you're going to quote them at all. If you read all the info on copyright, not just the first page, you will find that it is not necessary to register the work, nor is it mandatory to show the © in one form or another.

Registration and the Copyright Process

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The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently misunderstood. Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created. A work is "created" when it is fixed into a book, tape or electronic medium for the first time. Thus, for example, a song can be fixed in sheet music or in a digital tape, or both. No publication, registration or other action in the U.S. Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. However, in order to enforce the copyright and for many other practical reasons, it will be necessary to register the copyright with the U.S. Copyright Office.


Copyright Library Infringement

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Since 1989, a copyright symbol (©) has not been required in order to protect a copyright. However, it does put people on notice that your work is copyrighted and weakens any "innocent infringements." A person may use the "©" symbol even without registering the work with the U.S. Copyright Office.

In addition, the United States has copyright relations with more than 100 countries throughout the world. As a result of these agreement, a U.S. copyright is recognized and honored in most industrialized nations in the world.

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The sites you listed are as said just assumed, and not true.
The sites listed say the same thing your site does. You just didn't read enough of your site to find the info.
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Old 12-31-04, 09:46 AM   #22
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If you ahve a website and want to protect you imgine dont let them right click. But most can probly counter that

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I used to visit a site and they did this protection. I didn't particularly like the images on the site but the fact that they didn't want me to have them was enough for me to try and figure out how to get at them.
First I tried taking a snapshot of the webpage and cutting out the pic. That was too difficult. Then I tried copying the page to web software (I used Frontpage) and that will get all the pics.
But I finally found that you can just hightlight the pic you want and press CTRL+C to copy it. No problem!

So anyway, when I started my own site, I decided I was going to add the code to protect my pics. Did you know that Macs ignore all that protection? Anyone using a Mac can copy protected images with a click or two. I figured with the Mac popularity (I use one, too) and the fact that someone with a website probably has the knowledge/determination to take any protected images they want, it was safer just to let them have what they want. The best I could do was watermark my pics.

Anyway, I'm not sure why I told this story but since I devoted a few minutes of my life to writing it, I'm going to hit the "Submit Reply" button and you can use some of your life reading it
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Old 12-31-04, 10:46 AM   #23
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There are many ways to bypass the "right click" detection; aside from using a different browser, you can view the source code and find the link to the real picture.

Even if it there was some way to feed the image to the browser without offering a copy of the location of the picture (which there isn't, as the browser otherwise wouldn't know where to view the picture), you can always do a packet dump and reconstruct the image from the raw data.

No matter what, no amount of code protection can do anything. If you can see the picture on your own computer, you can make a copy of it. 0's and 1's can always be reproduced perfectly.
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Old 12-31-04, 11:26 AM   #24
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Or simply go through the browser's cache and find the image
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The way I look at it is this, You should be proud that others find your photos that good. Unless they are claiming they took them or are say useing them in an add ie saying the animals in the photos are theres and for sale.

I'd just smile and say damm I took a good picture!!

We all do it grab and save a picture of this or that and often post them on boards like this to show or prove a point. now giving the owner of the pic credit would be nice but you may not know who took it... I've seen sites where they claim copy right to photos they state were taken by someone else , doesn't work that way unless the person gave the CRs to them.

I'll have to look at your photos and see if there are any I want to borrow
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Old 12-31-04, 12:15 PM   #26
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Just as an ironic side note, I just got an email a few minutes ago from a graphic design education company asking permission to use one of my photos for their logo. Odd timing. As long as people ask, I generally don't have a problem with it. I just always tell them to keep a copy of the email permission on file in case I forget
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When people ask me, I am more than happy to let them use the image, if not hand over even more for them to use. I never thought of giving them the persmission email if I forget. Good call BW.

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I really didn't have a problem with him using the pics. I was very flattered. I even told him he is more than welcome to use any pics he wants; just ask first, or at least credit me. But I suppose it's a kind of "school" mentality. I might not care that you copy my homework but you better ask first or I'll bop you in the nose!
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Old 12-31-04, 01:09 PM   #29
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Out of curiosity, has anyone here dabbled in selling photos or do you always lend them freely? I sold one once for $5 US; I've never had anyone ask to use one.
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Here is a partial quote that should answer most questions about stealing images online. There's way more info on this website, worth a look if you think it's okay to use a picture or info just because it's not displaying a © sign.
The info is from a website belonging to Dr. Ronald B. Standler attorney in Massachusetts and consultant, so it's pretty safe for even the non-believers to believe.


Some Observations on Copyright Law Copyright 1997-2001 Ronald B. Standler
"Copying on the Internet"

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A user who copies text or pictures from one web site and then posts the material among the user's own web pages is generally infringing a copyright. Even if the user makes some changes before posting the material, the act of posting can be copyright infringement, as explained above in the section on plagiarism.

Aside from legal implications of copyright infringement, reposting of material from other web sites can be an inconvenience to other users. The author may revise the original document frequently, but copies posted by other users will not be revised (indeed, the author may not know of the existence of these copies). The easiest way for everyone on the Internet to have the freshest information is to have only the author post the document. Other people can post a hypertext link to the author's document, to refer their readers to the most recent version of the document at the author's site.

Copying illustrations or diagrams or photographs (e.g., scanning a printed image or copying a GIF or JPEG file) always requires permission of the copyright owner, unless the works are clearly in the public domain (e.g., either a work produced by the U.S. Government or a work that was initially published before 1922 and was registered with the U.S. Copyright Office).

Posting a document on the world wide web is not publication. Publication is defined in the U.S. Copyright statute as

... the distribution of copies ... of a work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending. .... A public performance or display of a work does not of itself constitute publication.

17 U.S.C. §101.
Posting a document on the world wide web is a "public display" of the work, which is among the rights exclusively reserved to the owner of the copyrighted work. 17 USC §106(5).

I have seen many web sites with collections of images that contain a notice similar to the following:

If you find an image that belongs to you and you do not want it displayed here, send me an e-mail and I'll remove it immediately.

That may be a pleasant statement, but it shows a serious misunderstanding of copyright law. The law requires that the author of a web site, book, etc. ask permission of the copyright owner before displaying any copyrighted work. The burden is on the copier to ask permission. It is not the duty of the copyright owner to cruise the Internet and ask authors to stop infringing a copyright. In fact, the copyright owner can file copyright infringement litigation immediately on discovering the unauthorized use of copyrighted material.
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