Is it just me or are prices crashing on... - Page 2

ydnic · 10-10-04, 02:00 PM

Thats why the goverment shouldnt be so worried about regulating what people can`t have and start worring about what they do have. They should make laws on pricing and their should be licencing. Just anyone shouldn`t be able to run out and grab a BP because it is "neat". There should be licence a person has to purchase to buy the animal in the first place and then after there should also be licencing on breeding.
Just for example there should be a special permit to purchase a female and second special permit to own both - something along those lines - with heavy fines to follow if you don`t

There are so many ppl out there producing and mass producing - then 'opps, how am i gonna sell these things...okay i`m at a show whats everyone else got theirs marked for - i`m undercutting by $20.00 and i`ll sell to any jack@ss that pulls out their wallet.'

Thats how this all started..

Paleosuchus · 10-10-04, 02:15 PM

The average price for a cbb ball python is around 25-30 here. Guess up north its much more, but here it isnt even worth producing in most peoples eyes.

CamHanna · 10-10-04, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by Todd (in the classifieds)
Het alb,Burmese hatchlings=$50.ooeach

Stuff like this is a little scary but inflating the prices will attract more breeders, further flood the market and drive prices even lower.

nita · 10-10-04, 02:32 PM

CH babies here are around $80, you can get a better deal though if you buy quantity. I haven't seen CBB balls for under $100.00 though, usually between $125 - $200 for females and $125 - $150 for males.

Last spring my brother sold out his leo's for $40.00 a piece with no problem so I wouldn't say that is so bad either.

arkuden · 10-10-04, 03:16 PM

i got my norm. CBB BP in may of 04 and i got him for about 40 bucks and about 50 shipping. I do not think that normals are ugly in anyway. It seems like prices are this way because most people are just in it to make the money and everyone may see it as a quick cash opportunity (not litterally i know breeding snakes takes time) but you couldnt buy my normal from my for anything. Sure it would be cool to have a snow, albino, platinum, piebald or many others but if you look at it the way i do; theres no one in the world that has a snake like mine. My normal is still totally unique. Maybe not to any of you but you wont ever find an identical looking or acting one out there. In terms of pricing i do not think i would have been here today if i didnt get a great deal on my BP, becuase for someone my age spending 500+ on a snake for the first time seemed quite outrageous, especially for just wanting to have a good animal to take care of. But that fact that i got one for such a great price will make me more willing to buy in the future and consider a higher priced one based on my experiences with my current BP. So its probably a good thing that you can get normals at a great price becuase when you give someone a nice relatively low cost way into the herp industry they will realize the joys of these amazing animals and not be so hesitant to make purchases on higher priced snakes.

just my 2 cents

Paul

Tim and Julie B · 10-10-04, 03:35 PM

Bottom line. If you don't want to drop the market keep your prices up. When everyone blows theirs out for next to nothing during the summer you can charge double at Christmas time when no one else has them. Sell them for what you think they are worth not what some importer is dictating. If I put a lot of time into something then I want something back. TB

hooter · 10-10-04, 04:54 PM

Jeff ,

The Balls were CB but the corns I talked about were non feeders so it figures lol. If you asked me to prove they were CB I couldnt but could you prove they werent?

As for the Ball market being better, this is common sense really. Over time more morphs come along thus the prices grow higher. This thread is about normals in general so I have to agree that prices are crashing and will only continue to crash.

I agree with Invictus that breeders will be forced to come out with only the best to gain some profit. Standards are higher with any snake these days because over time new morphs are created and normals become less than standard for many people.

Invictus · 10-10-04, 05:00 PM

I was just looking at the ads on the "other forum", and let me tell ya... I'm glad the Canadian market for corns isn't doing what it's doing in the US... we're talking $10 for normals, even $25 for motleys and such.... at least up here, $35-$40 for a normal corn isn't considered obscene. So, I'm happy as a clam about that, given that corns are the bulk of my breeding projects.

So the same can be said about boas... we should be thankful even at $100 per animal, given that they go for about $40 in the states.

reptiguy420 · 10-10-04, 05:01 PM

i dont really know about the exchange rate and how much everything costs in canadien.I live in Michigan and ive been to herp shows where ball pythons go for as low as 15 dollars american and ive seen boa constrictors for as low as 30 on some classifieds throughout the internet.Its just getting rediculous in my opinion.

V.hb · 10-10-04, 05:23 PM

Far to many people mass produce then don't want to deal with babies and sell them as quick as possible for whatever they will get, ruining the market.

Look at bearded dragons, Ackies etc. Nobody buys them. Jeez, I phone stores and they wont even buy beardies for anymore than 10-15$ a piece!! Give me a break! Most people won't pay 20-25 in a private sale for a beardie, and if they do its after they ask what morph it is, expecting to get something super rare for nothing.

Invictus · 10-11-04, 11:12 AM

reptiguy420 - Right now, the Canadian dollar is almost 80 cents to the American dollar... so with currency fees and such, we'll pay about $1.25 for each American dollar. Not too bad right now.

lostwithin · 10-11-04, 12:30 PM

Hi, it is a shame that prices of the more common are so low. I completely agree that they have become much to cheap. But I find it quite scary that burms are so cheap, they sell for 50 bucks, it is scary too think that any kid with 50 bucks, can pick up a soon too be giant. Personally I don’t understand why breeders sell their animals so cheaply. I asked the local pet store what they would sell me an albino burm for, they told me it would be between 6 and 8 hundred. I know beardies are being sold there for around 150, and balls are 150. So why should breeders sell there personal animals so low. The big pet stores are selling trash animals at higher prices. And they must be moving these animals, now I look at those prices and think, that’s outrageous because I know I can get a burm for 50, but at the same time I know that no kid is walking out of there with a 50 dollar burm. Unfortunately the only way too change it is too sell animals for more then everyone else and everybody including myself is looking for the best deals.

Devon

D J N · 10-11-04, 01:30 PM

Me I would never pay $200 for a normal colombian B.c.i not unless it was an exceptionally nice one. As for why hte price has dropped it's probably because there are so many available now.

Cruciform · 10-11-04, 06:09 PM

lostwithin: pet stores are all about huge markups and uninformed buyers, that's why they sell for so much.

And with storefronts, people just walk in off the street.

Breeders sell for the price that meets demand. If they could get 800 for a burm they would, but they're market is either a) wholesalers would won't pay that kind of money, or b) people who find the ads in forums or magazines and are at least somewhat informed about the market.

It's not much different from cattle farmers. Look at how the beef distributors rake in all that cash while the people that do all the work sell at a loss.

leoncurrie · 10-11-04, 07:13 PM

I think it;s the whole reptile industry and how it has changed over the past few years.
When I first got into reptiles 10 plus year ago, the hobby was just that... a hobby. Whe you bought a reptile then.. you didn't care how much it cost because you enjoyed it's natural beauty. You could sit and look at it for hours in pure enjoyment. Today's reptile market is something like this...
1. Buy reptile for as little as possible
2. Shove reptile in rubbermaid ... out of mind out of site.
3. Get reptile ready for breeding as fast as possible.
4. Breed reptiles
5. Sell as offspring as fast as possible
6. Get reptiles to breeding weight again for new season
7. Buy more rubbermaids to prepare for more breeding projects