Twins - Page 2

beth wallbank · 06-23-04, 04:11 PM

very cool to see Elvira have babies guys! You will have to post some new pics when the babies are all out and cleaned up.

Tim_Cranwill · 06-23-04, 04:17 PM

Congratulations, Ryan and Sheila!

It will be nice to finally figure out what's going on inside that snake of Vern's... if it's a dwarf thing, put me on the list! lol

Very cool.

Scales Zoo · 06-24-04, 12:08 AM

Update:

2 of the eggs in the top (cooler) egg container have now started to pip. They barely dimpled, and the other eggs aren't dimpled yet.

Looks like only 23 of the 24 good eggs on the bottom pipped themselves, we cut the last one open. Not sure if the baby in there is alive or not, will look closer in the morning.

They are taking longer to emerge than I thought. There are now 11 snakes out, they started pipping on Sunday.

3 on the left side were first, then 7 eggs on the right side, and now the ones in the center are starting.

Katt and Vanan took some very good pictures with Vanans camera, I will upload them and post them tommorrow.

Ryan

jparker1167 · 06-24-04, 01:34 AM

congrats and good luck with them

Scales Zoo · 06-24-04, 09:43 PM

Another Update:

25 snakes out of 24 eggs from the bottom chamber. Found 12 out this morning, and the last one came out around dinner time.

There were 26 eggs in the bottom egg chamber, 14 eggs in the top egg chamber - not 25 and 15 like I was thinking.

1 egg on the bottom we figured was a slug the day it was laid, but we incubated it anyway to see what would happen. The other egg was the egg we manually pipped (I think). I decided the baby was dead (I had poked it a few times) and when I pulled it out I found a narrow faced, under developed, kinked and curled baby that had seperated from his still large yoke sack – I named him George and videoed his funeral.

I also weighed the babies. Most babies weighed 122 grams. The smallest (non twin) weighed 104 grams, and the largest weighed 133 grams.

The twins weighed 53 and 58 grams each. That is a total of 113, which is less than half of the average of the clutch. The larger babies appear to be 22’’ – 23’’ long, the twins are around 18’’ and quite slender.

We weighed 2 of the eggs, which have not pipped yet (in the top egg container, where the eggs did not dimple before they hatch) - and they both weighed 250 grams. I did not have the presence of mind to weigh all the eggs after they were laid, I will do that next time. I also did not get any weights of the eggs on the bottom chamber, but I’m quite sure they were less than the top eggs. It will be interesting to see what the top babies weigh.

Pictures to come soon.

Ryan

Scales Zoo · 06-25-04, 07:48 AM

Katt and Vanan came over with Vanan’s camera. They both took some pictures (their names are on all of them, except for the one of Katts that I turned and cropped to show the S shape in the pattern)

So anyways…. Here they are.

Vanan did a great job on these low light pictures. I was recently looking for a good picture of a baby burm hatching from an egg, and besides Steve Gooch’s, I did not find any good pictures. There was a newspaper lady over today taking pictures, and got some pictures of the clean eggs in the top of the container hatching.

Here is a picture of a twin beside an average sized baby.

Twins beside their egg.

A really nice picture.

I haven’t inspected the burms for long words in their pattern yet, but the 3rd one that hatched out had a big S that made me think of Superman, or Supermod (hey, Matt K, want a burm?). Noticed a few other letters, so contact me if your name starts with a S, a W, a M or a O (just kidding).

Ryan