Adult Red, eye caps....help

[daver676]

Jeez it was just an eyecap Beardonicus. Lay off. If you don't have anything useful to say, don't say it.

[BigPlaya]

You could have said, well its unfortunate that you bought a snake with a problem like that but we all learn from our mistakes. Now I will offer a solution............>>>>SOLUTION.

My grandmother always said if you dont have anything nice to say then dont say anything at all. PERIOD!!!!

Ive been trying to figure out this whole het. thing and everyone has been sooo helpful. Im glad I didnt get responses like this.

[Linds]

Wow this thread needs to calm down. Gargoyle was just asking a simple question about how to help his snake, not complaining. Nobody needs to jump on anyone here. These forums are for sharing advice and helping others -civilly-.

[Beardonicus]

Its that kind of attitude that allows dealers to continue to sell sub-par animals with no consequence at all. I for one would NEVER purchase an animal with retained eyecaps....if the person could not do something as simple as maintain proper shedding conditions, who knows what else they may have done or not done? You see my point? The truth will never be sugar-coated.

[Linds]

Nobody is asking for sugar-coating, just to keep it friendly

[BigPlaya]

Well I have to add one more thing, Bloods can be terrible shedders. Just because a snake has retained eyecaps doesnt mean its unhealthy. My close friend Potts has a blood and it has been having a terrible time shedding but that is not to say that he is a bad snake keeper. He is actually a really good caretaker. He spends about an hour a day just with that snake. Well thats the only snake he has but my point is just because it had eyecaps retained doesnt mean that he shouldnt have bought the snake. So good luck with getting those eyecaps off if its not already done.

[Beardonicus]

Bloods if kept correctly have no more shedding problems than any other snake. Your friend needs to look at his husbandry. Does he provide a humid hide area? Bloods need humidity, but also a dry place as well. A humid hide with damp cypress mulch or spagnum moss works great.

[Grant vg]

Just because they recieved a snake with eyecaps means absolutely NOTHING concerning there health.
Thats not to say that your points are wrong, assuming you knew the situation and/or the seller involved, but i dont think that is the case here.
Lets face it, regardless of how "talented" one is at taking care of there snakes, you're bound to have a snake with retained eye caps somewhere along the line.
Perhaps the seller caught the eye caps too late in a drying period and decided to bypass the "tape to the eye" because they felt it could do more harm then good. Which can very well happen, with lack of experience and a little bit of bad luck.
If i didn't catch it in time, without a doubt, id leave the eye caps on till next shed. Infact, last month i sent an expensive animal to the states with retained eye caps. And this animal was extremely healthy as well as taken care with the best husbandry.

I dont see how you can justify your first post as "provoking thought", perhaps provoking a flame would be a better term.
If you want to be helpful on these boards, then take the time to write your posts respectfully or dont write them at all.
no where in Dana's first post did he "complain" about his purchase. he simply stated the situation, and asked for the best way to solve it.
Your following posts have a little bit more credibility to them, perhaps you sat back and wrote your posts a little more tactful this time around or perhaps its because you started actually finding out some facts that you could base your opinion on instead of jumping to conclusions.
Now, we have a thread with a valid question and really only one useful answer by simon, but 20 something replies. I only hope that a noobie doesn't come across this thread in a search for information and becomes scared to ask a question.


Dana, i hope you got my email.
please let me know if you did not.

gvg

[gargoyle]

I got the Email Grant....Thank you very much!

[Beardonicus]

What can I say....I have an abrasive personality. I apologize to anyone I may have offended. I hope all goes well with your blood, gargoyle and that you get those eye caps off successfully.

[Dozer]

aw, thats it? MORE!

I'm jokin'

Mike

[Potts]

Hey BigPlaya! Kamaula sheds are getting better now, still not great. I have taken care of lots of snakes and Bloods and Ball pythons always seem to have shed problems. My humidity and temps all seem to be in the proper range....odd. One thing I have noticed is that he (the blood) hates it when I turn on his hot spot heat lamp! He will get as far away from it as possible! Its only a 75 watter to boot! Does anyones Blood actually "use" there "hot spot" ? I have never seen my "bask" and is always on the "cool" side of the tank. I checked and rechecked my temps and they are what everyone says they should be. Frustrating...Anyhow, Beardionicus: It took a big man to apoligize like that, nice work. I must confess sometimes I have bought a snake in bad shape to help(heal) the snake. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Nothing in this world upsets me like walking in to a "pet store" and seeing animals neglected or poorly cared for. Lets keep this board helpful and civil. Its one of the best out there. Take care everyone, thanks for your time, Potts:}

[sneak]

Wow...I didn't mean to start a flame war. I suppose I over reacted just a bit. I guess I kinda get defensive sometimes when I feel like someone's getting attacked.