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Old 09-18-03, 02:54 PM   #16
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Hm. After doing some checking I agree with Katt, Jonathan, Roy & Co.

Boy, do I need to get my eyes checked, LOL!

Katt, you have some Baird's, don't you?

Cheers all!

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Old 09-18-03, 06:35 PM   #17
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Yup, I have an adult pair of baird's. Should be good to go this up coming season. I'm excited to see babies. I think they are one of NA's best looking Pantherophis.
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Old 09-19-03, 06:29 AM   #18
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they look like grey rats to me.... you'll know if they keep there saddles, coz spiloides do keep em and bairdi loose them
might be E.obsoleta lindheimeri, but they look like greys
Do you know how long they are?
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Old 09-23-03, 04:33 AM   #19
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I have 5 bastards of e.o.quadrivittata X e.guttata, they look the same to me, especially the pinkish/brown belly. But it ainīt easy telling right form wrong on those north-american elaphe species...

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