dummeils or argintine? or both? :)

[Feed'em All]

Boa Constrictor Occidentalis to death, as argentinian I am proud to claim that we have the best snake ever, beautiful and with an awesome personality. Very underrated in here tough (dunno why)
Martin.

[Linds]

I haven't heard of any microchip law in either the States or Canada. I know that almost all (if not all) in Canada are not microchipped. As I understand it the same goes in the States as well. As long as you have proof of legal aquisition (ie- paperwork) you cannot get in any trouble, and from what I am told, basically none of the animals in the US have accompanying paperwork, as well as many of the animals up here do not. As long as you are not trying to export the animals it really isn't of concern to CITES.

krrc,
If you can house and keep both, I would say go for it. Someone told me that a long time ago when I asked a similar question and they were right, because if you want both you will probably eventually get the other one anyways

[LdyDrgn]

Thanks Linds. I didn't think there was any law about that. LOL

[paul_le_snake]

well maybe the microchipping is just in europe, which if it is makes no sense whatsoever. the whole reason for the microchipping is that papers can and are dodctored to make an animal look legal. also if you contact the canadain wildlife service they will tell you that it is very hard to get the correct paperwork to bring cites 1 animals across the us border, as for them not having proper paperwork then that is flying in the face of stupidity. these animals are endangered in their natural habitats. a big problem happened in the states a few years ago with dumerills that were being bred with too close relatives. this made for weak animals, but if they had been properly documented then this would never have happened.
cheers
paul

[Piers]

Dumerils are great I breed them and have 2 gravid ones right now, the one female is as big as a house. they always eat and are very melow. Never had trouble withe getting the babies to eat.
I've never heard of the mico chip law, and as for cities well they need to do a little revamping and the people runing the show should get to know thier own rules and laws.(thirdgeneration animals drop to appendix 2, cities 1 has 2 different levels threatened, endangered)
Piers

[krrc]

you have any pics of your dums?

[Piers]

I can't get the scanner to work, but I'm working on getting a new stack and a digital camera soon. I'm dying to sow off some of my animals.
Piers

[theroom101]

My vote is on the Dumie, but I partial because of my baby. I just think that the Dumeril Boa is the pretty boy of the midsized snakes, so who wouldn't want to own one! Mine came from a breeder and he hasn't had any eating problems or shyness problems, but one from a pet store might be different.

Definitely Bco, my 2 are my favorites in my collection

[Lasher]

I have both. The Dumerils is kind of sluggish compared to Greyson (see my avitar). If I had to choose one, I would go with the Argentine hands down.

[SATAN]

just curious u said alittle further down in the post that u wasn't worried about size or husbandry?? then why not to sound smart or anything cuz it ain't ment to be smart allick statement but why u gonna get rid of the burm?? u said at the beginning that u made a mistake buying her for that reason? but u want a argentine or a dumeril they both can be a good size. just my input though.

[LdyDrgn]

They won't get nearly as large as a burm, though. Argentines and Dumerils do have the ability to get quite large for boas, but not 15-25 feet.

[ssscales]

No microchip law in the states that I know of. I have four Dums and have bred them as well. They are calm pleasant snakes with a great temperament. One of my females now is about 7FT, the other three are between 5-6FT. They do grow slower than the BCI's and usually average 6-7FT, but can reach 9FT.

I am looking at getting a trio of Argies next year, just got a pair of Hogs. I think Argies are great looking snakes especially the nice Black/White ones and the T+ Albinos.

Here is a year old pic of my female, she’s grown quite a bit since this pic and looks much better. I’ll have to update my pics after this breeding season.

[bistrobob85]

Hehe, now this thread really blows my mind!!! I would REALLY like to have a legal couple of BCOs, here in Canada but i don't even know if that exists yet!!! As for the dums, i've already fallen for one and i have a little female which eats perfectly, as long as i give her live food... I'm actually having a few problems switching her to F/T but i say Dums are wonderful! I'm just so jealous to hear that it seems so normal to you guys to see dums and argies in reptiles shows!!! As soon as i've got my couple of ETB, my couple of BCI and my couple of Dumerils, i'll go for BCOs for sure, then Womas then Olive pythons if i have the room for them .

phil.

[cnb]

I have a dumerils and up until recently had three. I decided to down size my collection. Anyway I believe dums are a very special boa. They are a little shy but are very docile. They stay smaller than most large boas 6 to 7 ft. and are in my opinion a all around great snake. The argentine boa is also a cool looking boa that grows to 7 to 9 ft. I have never owned one but i hear that they can be agressive. You say the pet shop has one. I would handle both snakes and see which one you like the best. If you do go for the dums, ask to see it eat before you bring it home.
Good luck with which ever one you buy.