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Old 04-04-17, 01:11 AM   #16
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Re: About 100 dead pythons discovered in Florida home

With abandonment mentioned I wonder if they were even living with anyone or left in a house to easily be forgotten when care became too difficult or annoying for what they thought they'd get out of having them. You can abandon something in another part of your house but it's not usually stated that way instead of just left as neglect. I'm not sure what you call inadequate exercise of a snake. I wouldn't think official size requirements were that hard to meet so someone had to really not care about the snakes to cram them in there like that.

These events should not happen and it's sad but unfortunately I see the other side due to paranoid neighbors or a single pet buyer too often to back most of the reactions suggesting ways to prevent future events when these things make the news. Increasing laws and punishment to make people want to avoid breaking them ends up harming more responsible people than the number of truly bad situations they stop. The real mills often get around it, aren't out much if their animals are all taken because they are usually cheaply acquired stock, possibly mutts that pass as close enough, with health issues anyway, or can afford the fees and find a way to open elsewhere under another name. This is in the news because how often do 100 pythons get found dead from neglect? The number of what amount to illegal seizures is far higher. Go look at the comments again. Back laws to restrict things and those people will run with them. Many of us raising small "livestock" for meat or those raising for snake food have to be paranoid because of the pet laws out there for mammals already. Far more often to the point it doesn't even make the news anymore unless it's extra special rabbit breeders, including national champions, have had their stock taken, improperly cared for by idiot "rescuers" who were only familiar with pets so that some died rapidly, and sterilized for a waste of lots of money and the ruining of a valuable breeding line or entire rare breed to then take up pet homes or spend their life in a shelter. Usually because of a few stupid things that were more personal issues with some people such as dead animals in the freezer that were all purposely put down and destined to be food or fully legal keeping of them on wire floors with no sign of foot damage. People have been fined $100,000s on their little well cared for operation they mostly run for themselves for selling over the $500 you are allowed to make in animal sales yearly without USDA inspection. How fast do how any people go over that without knowing it exists? At least 5 well known cases in rabbits made that major oops and got it on the record books. Some of these people were selling rabbits for $20 when some sell show rabbits or new imported guinea pig breeds for $100+ each. Rat breeders have had their entire stock seized too without any real cause except vague interpretation of some law that probably wasn't written with that purpose. I just saw one posted to a group recently. A lot of people can't even say why it happened until months later when someone figures out something they can actually write down as breaking a law. Once you get started law enforcement often then forgets actual laws exist altogether or to at least verify the existence/meaning of them. If the local groups speak loudly enough suddenly USDA requirements and legal processes go out the window to be replaced by requirements made up by pet owners and animal rights activists who walk off with the animals right then and there. Many can't even get a lawyer fast enough to counter any of the results of the seizures that have happened.
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Old 06-06-17, 12:32 PM   #17
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Re: About 100 dead pythons discovered in Florida home

Poor babies. This makes my heart break.
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Old 06-06-17, 11:55 PM   #18
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I suspect the woman has some serious mental health or drug addiction issues considering the condition of the house as well as the dead animals.
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