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08-07-16, 10:33 PM
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Re: woma bite me...any danger? i´m kinda worried
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Originally Posted by dannybgoode
Feeder tubs are a terrible idea not least because of the stress it puts on the snake. All snakes should be fed in their viv. Absolutely no reason to do anything other.
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This. Andy said it best, but the common belief that taking a snake out of its cage and feeding it in a tub makes it less likely to bite its handler is not true at all. Whether it displays obvious signs of distress or not, the snake is stressed because it's out of its comfortable, familiar surroundings and at least IME often won't eat. If it's going to bite you it will bite you anyway, tub or not.
If that doesn't hold water with you, Don Soderberg at South Mountain Reptiles ran an experiment some years back where he took half of his roughly 1,400 snakes out to be fed and left half in their tubs. He recorded the number of bites from each group and found no significant difference. The only real differences were in the amount of time and trouble it took to pull all the snakes out and that more from the "out" group refused food, so he stopped doing it.
Tap training, however, is something you might find helpful.
BTW, Andy and Danny are far from ignorant. Both have considerable practical experience, so you might try learning from them instead of insulting them.
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08-06-16, 10:47 AM
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Re: woma bite me...any danger? i´m kinda worried
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Originally Posted by be4rdeddr4gon
You need a feeder tub.
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No. You are more likely to get bit and it also stresses out the snake. Feeding tubs are pointless unless you're cohabbing.
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08-06-16, 04:48 AM
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Re: woma bite me...any danger? i´m kinda worried
I have been bit so many times and only had a problem once. One of the boas' left a few teeth in my finger that needed to be surgically removed. But it never got infected or anything as I was quick to disinfect and clean the wound as soon as it happened (found out about the teeth about a week later when it wasn't healing correctly and X-Rays lol). Just FYI--the boa (an 8.5ft) had my hand/finger for a good 10 minutes before she let go.
As others said, I would keep an eye out on it, clean/dress it, and perhaps (if not already have them) invest in a hook (just tap him/her to let the snake know you are not food/feeding time).
I hope you feel better soon!
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08-07-16, 05:17 PM
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Re: woma bite me...any danger? i´m kinda worried
dude you are just ignorant if you don't use a feeding tank when you reach in the tank the snake will think that you're hand is lunch and bite you because you're hand is a heat source and snakes like to eat hot things.
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08-07-16, 05:31 PM
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Re: woma bite me...any danger? i´m kinda worried
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Originally Posted by be4rdeddr4gon
dude you are just ignorant if you don't use a feeding tank when you reach in the tank the snake will think that you're hand is lunch and bite you because you're hand is a heat source and snakes like to eat hot things.
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No, that's an old misconception, sorry. Unless ALL you do when you open the cage is feed, even proposing that the snake would make that connection makes no sense. Also, it's very easy to tap train a snake to even further reduce chances of a feeding response bite. Do what you think is best, though. Some people don't want to learn. Ignorant indeed "dude".
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08-08-16, 02:53 AM
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Re: woma bite me...any danger? i´m kinda worried
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Originally Posted by be4rdeddr4gon
dude you are just ignorant if you don't use a feeding tank when you reach in the tank the snake will think that you're hand is lunch and bite you because you're hand is a heat source and snakes like to eat hot things.
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Not being cheeky or ignorant here mate just a question but do think it would be a good idea to remove a 16ft retic from a feeding tank/tub and put it back into its enclosure while it's still in feeding mode and likes to eats hot things
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08-08-16, 03:45 AM
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Re: woma bite me...any danger? i´m kinda worried
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Not being cheeky or ignorant here mate just a question but do think it would be a good idea to remove a 16ft retic from a feeding tank/tub and put it back into its enclosure while it's still in feeding mode and likes to eats hot things 
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I have to second that, anyone who think it's a good idea to move a retic to a feeding tank is welcome to see what happens when you open the window on feeding night.. All i can say is watch your face, and i will have you sign a waiver first.. Anyway in all seriousness, i have never used feeding tubs and never will. Hook training is the way to go, also making feeding and handling times on obviously different times of day also helps. I feed my snakes after the lights go out, handling is always during the day.. That also helps! I am not a supporter of cohabiting in any way, so i see no need in even having feeding tubs. (Not a jab at anyone who co-habs, to each their own)
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08-08-16, 12:43 PM
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Re: woma bite me...any danger? i´m kinda worried
Sorry I meant live things that send of heat waves
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08-07-16, 10:43 PM
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Re: woma bite me...any danger? i´m kinda worried
I agree that feeding tubs are a thing of the past in most situations. As Andy mentioned feeder tubs are in my opinion a great tool when feeding cohabitated snakes. Most problems with aggression happen during feeding so by removing the animal during this time reduces the risk to nil. I remove the calmer of my two garters during feeding time and he doesn't seem to mind.
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08-11-16, 03:25 AM
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Re: woma bite me...any danger? i´m kinda worried
Well i survived with all limbs still atached and in good health ;P
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