Any better snake recommendations? - Page 2

**Aaron_S** · 02-14-15, 11:34 AM

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Since when are Children's pythons common?

Since the 70's.

trailblazer295 · 02-14-15, 02:19 PM

In general you're right they aren't. Finding any info on them is hard. Visually they are not extreme. But there body size and shape and behavior is cool. They are still on my list of potentials but I'll have to research all viable options before pulling the trigger. Don't want to make a quick choice to learn about another snake that would I'd like a lot more.

D Grade · 02-14-15, 08:29 PM

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Don't some of those get pretty long? Was trying to stick with smaller species so they don't feel cramped and I'm not wanting to upgrade them too lol it's a vicious circle I'm trying to avoid. Thanks for the help guys. I'll have to keep reading and find something special that really grabs me.

The biggest Kings get 6' but the average is 4'-4.5', about the same with Milks and Corns but I think they are more likely to reach the 5'-6' plateau since Milks and Corns generally get the length while Kings generally get the girth as opposed to length.

trailblazer295 · 02-15-15, 06:53 AM

Hmm that will be bigger then my BP who was moved to a 48x24x16. Didn't think a 24x24x12 would be big enough for an adult.

Ouroboros · 02-27-15, 05:04 PM

No one's mentioned Wester Hognoses yet! They're extremely morphologically different from a BP, stay between 2-2.5' long, and have hilarious faces.

trailblazer295 · 03-02-15, 07:28 PM

Thank you for the suggestion, I was debating moving my BP but the other night I found him hanging out on one of the wooden branches and today while feeding I could see all the paths beaten flat in the cocohusk where he is exploring at night. He has gone the perimeter of his cage. I'll have to monitior how much he uses the space over the next few months. So far from what I've read a hoggy (as I've read on here before

) is an excellent choice for my smaller cage. Cool looking while remaining small.

trailblazer295 · 03-02-15, 07:51 PM

The more I read the more confusing everything gets. Or I should say the more undecided I am on which is the right one for me and this cage. I want one that isn't restricted of space, I've always been a go big or go home mentality and bigger cage for pets.

jjhill001 · 03-03-15, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jjhill001

Since when are Children's pythons common?

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Since the 70's.

When I think of common snakes I think of stuff you only find at pet stores IE the big four Balls, Common Boas, Corns and Cali Kings. I've got to be honest I don't think I've ever actually seen a Children's Python in person. Even though they were always in care books even back when I first got into herps (90's).

jjhill001 · 03-03-15, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by trailblazer295

The more I read the more confusing everything gets. Or I should say the more undecided I am on which is the right one for me and this cage. I want one that isn't restricted of space, I've always been a go big or go home mentality and bigger cage for pets.

I wouldn't sweat it too much. Take your time, look around. Go to a few shows see everything. Then make your decision that way. There is a plethora of species that would live in that size terrarium not even limited to snakes.

You can think of other factors like the awesome garter snake idea from earlier they are more active and depending on what you feed them can be fed more often. They are a bit of a hands off species depending on your individual's temperament because they can be a bit skittish in my experience. Given that they feed more they need cleaned more because they poo more. Do you have time for that added responsibility. One of the big bonuses of snakes is that you really only "need" to do any sort of work with them once or twice a week.

Hognose, garters, some water snakes, Rosie's, sand boas, some kingsnakes (Ruthvens, Mexican, some of the mountain kings) most Milksnakes, a few of the Asian rat snakes, house snakes. The fact that it is 24inches wide gives you a little more wiggle (slither?) room because there is much more floor space than your typical 24 inch long terrarium.

Actually after punching the numbers you could probably keep stuff like corn snakes, rat snakes and mid sized kingsnakes in there as well. It checks out as a 29 gallon size enclosure. But your average 29 gallon has much less floor room than yours does. However I like you prefer to allow a bit more than the minimum so all the species I mentioned above would have plenty of space.

**Aaron_S** · 03-04-15, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jjhill001

When I think of common snakes I think of stuff you only find at pet stores IE the big four Balls, Common Boas, Corns and Cali Kings. I've got to be honest I don't think I've ever actually seen a Children's Python in person. Even though they were always in care books even back when I first got into herps (90's).

You should find them at reptile specific stores a little more frequently. Usually they pop up in the classifieds a few times a year.

trailblazer295 · 03-04-15, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jjhill001

I wouldn't sweat it too much. Take your time, look around. Go to a few shows see everything. Then make your decision that way. There is a plethora of species that would live in that size terrarium not even limited to snakes.

You can think of other factors like the awesome garter snake idea from earlier they are more active and depending on what you feed them can be fed more often. They are a bit of a hands off species depending on your individual's temperament because they can be a bit skittish in my experience. Given that they feed more they need cleaned more because they poo more. Do you have time for that added responsibility. One of the big bonuses of snakes is that you really only "need" to do any sort of work with them once or twice a week.

Hognose, garters, some water snakes, Rosie's, sand boas, some kingsnakes (Ruthvens, Mexican, some of the mountain kings) most Milksnakes, a few of the Asian rat snakes, house snakes. The fact that it is 24inches wide gives you a little more wiggle (slither?) room because there is much more floor space than your typical 24 inch long terrarium.

Actually after punching the numbers you could probably keep stuff like corn snakes, rat snakes and mid sized kingsnakes in there as well. It checks out as a 29 gallon size enclosure. But your average 29 gallon has much less floor room than yours does. However I like you prefer to allow a bit more than the minimum so all the species I mentioned above would have plenty of space.

The less daily work needed is why I have a snake instead of a lizard. I like them but my work schedule is highly inconsistent. I don't have the set schedule and time to take care of one and the majority of beginner lizards require the most daily care. Being unable to go away for the weekend wasn't right for me. Snakes are more my speed, my work schedule generally means I only have the time to sit down and interact with my snake once or twice a week anyway. The looks of hognose is very interesting to me. I've never seen one here though, I'm not sure if they are legal in Canada or not. If they are then they'll be on my short list of possibilities.

reptiledude987 · 03-04-15, 06:00 PM

hoggies are legal in Canada and are available at most of the toronto expos.

Akuma223 · 03-04-15, 06:02 PM

You could try garter snakes, or african house snakes. Garter snakes have very interesting and curious behavior and can live in small groups without issue unlike most snakes.

jjhill001 · 03-04-15, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

You should find them at reptile specific stores a little more frequently. Usually they pop up in the classifieds a few times a year.

I see them online a bit just no reptile specific pet stores in my area unfortunately just the main Petsmart, Pet Supplies Plus and Petco and then there is a fish store that gets unique things in but not as much as I'd like to see and its a bit of a drive to get there. I might have to check out Cleveland it's not more than an hour and 20 minutes and there might be one up there.

**Aaron_S** · 03-06-15, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jjhill001

I see them online a bit just no reptile specific pet stores in my area unfortunately just the main Petsmart, Pet Supplies Plus and Petco and then there is a fish store that gets unique things in but not as much as I'd like to see and its a bit of a drive to get there. I might have to check out Cleveland it's not more than an hour and 20 minutes and there might be one up there.

Good luck! Interesting little Aussie snakes.