Sumatra python

[thawes]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Hey Terry,

I see you're new. Take a few minutes and check things out. It's a very welcoming place.

Thanks Aaron, I'll take you up on that

[LiL Zap]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I have no issue in helping people out. What I do have an issue with is when people go ahead and buy an animal then come say "Teach me everything about it in 10 minutes. K thx bye."

You never really know if they did the research though. What if he did research but wants some further elaboration from experienced keepers? I mean I can go around every thread saying "read a book" but that would be inappropriate in my opinion.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by LiL Zap

You never really know if they did the research though. What if he did research but wants some further elaboration from experienced keepers? I mean I can go around every thread saying "read a book" but that would be inappropriate in my opinion.

Usually when someone has done that they ask specific questions such as "I've read the ambient temperature should be between XX and YY. Which is it?"

Someone who comes along and says "I plan on getting one...haha...so teach me temperment, humidity, enclosure, feeding habits..."

These are usually from people who have decided on something and now rely completely on someone spoon feeding them everything they need to know.

Look to your left a little bit. See where my avatar mentions how long I've been around for? I've seen a LOT of these posts and these type of posters usually disappear, never to return, or have animals die or ask many other questions later on when the snake isn't doing well.

[millertime89]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Usually when someone has done that they ask specific questions such as "I've read the ambient temperature should be between XX and YY. Which is it?"

Exactly. Aaron hit the nail on the head.

[CosmicOwl]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Usually when someone has done that they ask specific questions such as "I've read the ambient temperature should be between XX and YY. Which is it?"

Someone who comes along and says "I plan on getting one...haha...so teach me temperment, humidity, enclosure, feeding habits..."

These are usually from people who have decided on something and now rely completely on someone spoon feeding them everything they need to know.

Look to your left a little bit. See where my avatar mentions how long I've been around for? I've seen a LOT of these posts and these type of posters usually disappear, never to return, or have animals die or ask many other questions later on when the snake isn't doing well.

It always blows my mind when I realize you've been on this site for 12 years.

[waf]

Hey....! thanks for all your comments and links, they really help!!
I only would like to say that I decided to come and ask about this python, because I will get one, of course I clicked on google about it... but I thought it could be wise to read from real owners, their experiences and recommendations, as I mentioned, I have some experience on boas and retics, because I own them, and I clearly can share some experiences I had with them, if someone ask, no matter how much time has been around here...

Aaron... 14,858 posts and 12 years of membership over here... wow! they are big, big numbers... congratulations! but I would like to tell you somenting: Look to your left a little bit. See where my avatar mentions how long I've been around..... yes, just a few time and posts, but guy, I didn't need too much years to learn that forums are for sharing. Let me ask you a question: How many Sumatra's Blood Pythons do you have? at least one? well, with all that experience, and having readed "the book", why you just share your knowledge? that is not too bad, try it some day..

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by waf

Hey....! thanks for all your comments and links, they really help!!
I only would like to say that I decided to come and ask about this python, because I will get one, of course I clicked on google about it... but I thought it could be wise to read from real owners, their experiences and recommendations, as I mentioned, I have some experience on boas and retics, because I own them, and I clearly can share some experiences I had with them, if someone ask, no matter how much time has been around here...

Aaron... 14,858 posts and 12 years of membership over here... wow! they are big, big numbers... congratulations! but I would like to tell you somenting: Look to your left a little bit. See where my avatar mentions how long I've been around..... yes, just a few time and posts, but guy, I didn't need too much years to learn that forums are for sharing. Let me ask you a question: How many Sumatra's Blood Pythons do you have? at least one? well, with all that experience, and having readed "the book", why you just share your knowledge? that is not too bad, try it some day..

I currently don't own any bloods, blacks or borneos. In the past? About 6 or 7.

I share a lot. Go look around. Plenty of my knowledge here.

I have no problem sharing. I enjoy it. However, I prefer specific questions instead of me having to lay out every piece of information for someone. I believe forums are for sharing real experiences to help people sift through the stuff online since we all know it can be rather polarizing in opinions. So that is where specific questions come.

[waf]

Good answer Aaron... thanks..

[marvelfreak]

When you say Sumatra are you talking Curtus Curtus short-tail (blacks) or Brongersmai actual Red Bloods?

Because there is some differences in my experiences. Blacks tend to be way mellower, not as nervous and willing to strike as Reds. Blacks also tend to be more curious and active. Out side of that keeping them about the same high side 87 low mid 70s. My adult Blacks can be very vocal with huffing and puffing but never so much as a strike. Red might give you a little huff but most of the time just strike out of no where. Remember this is not true of all Reds just my personal experiences.

[thawes]

Originally Posted by marvelfreak

When you say Sumatra are you talking Curtus Curtus short-tail (blacks) or Brongersmai actual Red Bloods?

Because there is some differences in my experiences. Blacks tend to be way mellower, not as nervous and willing to strike as Reds. Blacks also tend to be more curious and active. Out side of that keeping them about the same high side 87 low mid 70s. My adult Blacks can be very vocal with huffing and puffing but never so much as a strike. Red might give you a little huff but most of the time just strike out of no where. Remember this is not true of all Reds just my personal experiences.

My experiences are similar. I keep all three species, and they are all very vocal, but it seems only my brongs will strike at me ( only a few). With the exception of hatchlings, my SSTP's and Borneos are all hiss and no kiss. Borneos would rather flail their body violently in defense than strike when they've had enough handling... at least some of mine anyway.
One thing I do different than most, is I don't offer a temperature gradient. I heat my room to 82, and it doesn't get much warmer. I also humidity the room and run a fan 24/7. Ventilation and cleanliness is of the utmost with these snakes...with the water waste they expelled regularly, a respiratory infection can set in quickly.
At the end of the day, they're a pretty rewarding species to keep. Small, yet impressive, and they come in all kinds of colors as well.
Kinda like ball pythons for men...

[marvelfreak]

Originally Posted by thawes

My experiences are similar. I keep all three species, and they are all very vocal, but it seems only my brongs will strike at me ( only a few). With the exception of hatchlings, my SSTP's and Borneos are all hiss and no kiss. Borneos would rather flail their body violently in defense than strike when they've had enough handling... at least some of mine anyway.
One thing I do different than most, is I don't offer a temperature gradient. I heat my room to 82, and it doesn't get much warmer. I also humidity the room and run a fan 24/7. Ventilation and cleanliness is of the utmost with these snakes...with the water waste they expelled regularly, a respiratory infection can set in quickly.
At the end of the day, they're a pretty rewarding species to keep. Small, yet impressive, and they come in all kinds of colors as well.
Kinda like ball pythons for men...

LMAO thank you for the laugh Terry. The All Hiss and No Kiss should be your motto.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by CosmicOwl

It always blows my mind when I realize you've been on this site for 12 years.

Blows my mind too.

I need a better life.

[waf]

Originally Posted by marvelfreak

When you say Sumatra are you talking Curtus Curtus short-tail (blacks) or Brongersmai actual Red Bloods?

Because there is some differences in my experiences. Blacks tend to be way mellower, not as nervous and willing to strike as Reds. Blacks also tend to be more curious and active. Out side of that keeping them about the same high side 87 low mid 70s. My adult Blacks can be very vocal with huffing and puffing but never so much as a strike. Red might give you a little huff but most of the time just strike out of no where. Remember this is not true of all Reds just my personal experiences.

Mine is a Brongermai... Hey... Do these pythons huff like boas?? My only experience with pythons is with my retic, and she never huffs or puffs... but... my boas do it all the time.

[waf]

Originally Posted by marvelfreak

LMAO thank you for the laugh Terry. The All Hiss and No Kiss should be your motto.

I think: Cats swipe, dogs bite, snakes strike... In this snake world we are in... a strike is imminent...

My only concern is if a brongersmai will be handable like a retic, with some handling, good meals and good enclosure conditions? or I have te expect a strike from time to time... My question is because sometimes, my friend's kids like to handle my snakes...

[waf]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Blows my mind too.

I need a better life.

You have a better life with snakes...!!
man.. I did parrots, turtles, tarantulas, edgehogs, fish, also, I did fox.. and I got all them away... but my snakes... they own the visitors room in my home.. (so, I got visitors away too... haha!).