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Old 10-20-04, 01:09 PM   #211
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Marisa??? U okay??? LOL I just see "I" in two of yer posts

Okay.. nm.. now i see yer post
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Old 10-20-04, 02:25 PM   #212
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Hey if any of you Ontario people post an email address or a place to write to, I am sure a few of us will gladly write a letter.
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Old 10-20-04, 02:36 PM   #213
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Yeah I guess I hit the submit button too many times and too early! lol

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Old 10-20-04, 04:25 PM   #214
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i have have written numberous emails to bryant. mcguinty and local mpps... pretty much daily until i get a response..
and will be attending rallys held..

and ppl against the ban that wants all the email addresses to mail possitive pit comments to.. just pm me and i'll send you the whole list of over 50 emails to contact...

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Old 10-20-04, 04:43 PM   #215
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What makes things worse now is I read that two pits were walking unattended and attacked a man and his cocker spanial. Both will survive, but suffered minor injuries. Not the publicity they need.

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Old 10-20-04, 04:53 PM   #216
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Just checking in to get a page count on this topic, seems to be slowing down some.
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Old 10-22-04, 10:14 AM   #217
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This just is not boading well for Pitt owners... more bad apples:

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Toront...22/679909.html

Pit bull kills Chihuahua
A TINY Mexican Chihuahua named Teek-Teek was shaken to death in the jaws of pit bull named Vice yesterday. The dead dog was attacked before 7 p.m. on Gilbert Ave., near St. Clair Ave. and Caledonia Rd., as owner Cecilia Gomes took it for a walk

Of course the Pitts were OFF LEASH... uggg.. Im sure this makes all you responsible owners stomachs feel sick...
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Old 10-22-04, 10:25 AM   #218
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i have a solution...since there has been a lot of replys thats its not the breed its the owners i say ban the owners and or put them down...lmao..but it really isin't funny anymore.
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Old 10-22-04, 10:26 PM   #219
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It's not good for the proposed ban either that MANY Canadian vets, including one who is president of the American college of veterinary behaviourists accourding to the paper, and a local vet in Thornhill Ontario, are saying this ban is NOT a good idea nor is it the proper solution.

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http://www.yorkregion.com/yr/newscen...-2652188c.html

This is the same point and sentiment of almost every vet that has had a word in print since this all came up. If they will not be considered experts on this issue, who then?

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Old 10-22-04, 10:30 PM   #220
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I'd also like to add this points from the article from those who didn't click on the link

""Costs to enforce could greatly exceed the limited revenues municipalities would generate through related fines and licencing," Mr. Anderson said. " (President of the Association of Municipalities of Ontario Roger Anderson )

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"Mr. Landsberg, who will also meet with the attorney general this week, said the American college of veterinary behaviourists has other questions about the proposed legislation.

"If a dog is going to protect your household, that's one of the dog's roles if someone comes on to the property. Is a dog who is threatened allowed to defend itself? And what about the play biting of young dogs; can that be reported to the government?

"My biggest concern is someone who is fearful of animals, not fond of animals, would be able to report incidents that really aren't of any danger or any concerns. Who is going to evaluate these reports?"

These are GOOD questions that they seemed to have pushed aside and even ignored to try and clean up a problem quick. It's sad really.

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Old 10-23-04, 10:26 AM   #221
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You don't think vets are biased? No pit bulls means less animals coming to the vet. You don't think vets have a vested interest in keeping the pet population high? Come on, why doesn't anybody consider the source anymore?
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Old 10-23-04, 11:25 AM   #222
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Ken, I somewhat agree and disagree.. I think one of the reasons why pits are banned is because of the ignorant owners. I highly doubt many vets even see a pitbull for any kind of treatment (including vaccines and spay/neutering) unless its to be euthanized. But then again, vets do make money off putting them down..
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Old 10-23-04, 11:27 AM   #223
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I think the whole pitt situation just went completely out of control. They have become terrors. Now, there are responsible owners but you guys are outnumbered grossly by idiots. Your enemy isnt the people banning pitts, it's the idiots that let this situation get so bad in the first place.
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Old 10-23-04, 12:06 PM   #224
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Yeah why dosen't anyone consider the source. Why would Bryant listen to the people who know absolutly nothing about them as opposed to listening to the vets, who know enough about them and some actually own them.

"I highly doubt many vets even see a pitbull for any kind of treatment (including vaccines and spay/neutering) unless its to be euthanized"

Why would u say that? Makes no sense whatsoever. Do u think they are treated any differently then any other dog. Vets will also be one of the first professionals to tell u that it is not the breed, but lets believe the people who know nothing about them.
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Old 10-23-04, 12:45 PM   #225
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Uhhhhh, Yes Beagle, I do think they are treated differently. You misunderstood. It's not the vets REFUSAL to see pitts, its the neglegent owners not taking them to SEE the vet.

The whole reason pitts are banned is animal cruelty. It's cruel to allow them to run free, terrorize other dogs and people and then have them put down due to the idiotic owners. I highly doubt these owners take them for vet visits.
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