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Old 02-01-12, 10:38 PM   #181
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Re: First time snake owner, looking for help!

The thing is, i had to pre order these hoppers, as i had said earlier. and my pet store is out of mice and f/t. so i have no choice but to feed her these hoppers, and now all im having to decide on is how to do so.
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Old 02-01-12, 10:40 PM   #182
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And she has been eating live for 2years, the previous owners never tried to do f/t. but as soon as next feeding come along and the pet store has some frozen mice ill grab a few of those. but right now i cant. shes not to big and only 2 years old, i should just go with 1 adult mouse right?
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Old 02-01-12, 10:41 PM   #183
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Re: First time snake owner, looking for help!

Step 1: Drop a single mouse in
Step 2:Close enclosure and leave room
Step 3:Check on snake 10 minutes later
Step 4:Success
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Old 02-01-12, 11:01 PM   #184
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Yeah thanks Aaron
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Old 02-02-12, 09:55 AM   #185
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Step 1: Drop a single mouse in
Step 2:Close enclosure and leave room
Step 3:Check on snake 10 minutes later
Step 4:Success
Dont like arguing with Aaron but if you are feeding live you shouldnt leave the snake/mouse unattended in case the mouse attacks the snake, all live feeding should be 100% supervised imo
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Old 02-02-12, 12:55 PM   #186
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Yah i know you told me that already so thats what im going to do. is there a certain time of day i should feed her? the mice dont ussualy come till 5
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Old 02-02-12, 12:57 PM   #187
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Night time is better than day time. My snakes all get into hunting mode around 8-9pm.
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Old 02-02-12, 01:02 PM   #188
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Ok so i should wait till later, it dont really matter what time?
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Some snakes will eat any time of day or night. My GTP will not eat before 7pm, so I tend to feed everyone at night.

So no time really doesn't matter but some snakes make up their own time. lol
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Old 02-02-12, 01:16 PM   #190
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Re: First time snake owner, looking for help!

my bullsnake will only eat during the day, my BP will eat whenever and so will my boa.. my GTP will not eat unless its dark usually I have to wait until around 10pm to feed her and 90% of the lights have to be off if she sees light its no deal until you turn it off
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It usually takes a few feedings before a snake goes into shed, but it all depends on how fast it's growing.

Just case in point here....my Ball will Shed every month or so, about 4 feeds. When I got him in July he was 330grams and now weighs 600.5grams.

My king who eats once a week as well on 4 Pinkies almost ready for Fuzzies grew like a weed this month. He shed on 1/10 and as of yesterday he's already got blue eyes. So once they fade I know don't touch him till I see shed in the cage, which is like 24-48 hours after his eyes turn back to normal.

But yea, I keep an Excel sheet of when I see shed's, record bi-weekly weighings, what I have fed(weight of food), and any odd behavior I notice. So I am a little crazy, always have been
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Also, on feeding...

I have always fed my Ball at night, since he's always sleeping in the day. I don't like removing him from the hide, but if I have to I give it two light flicks before I lift it so he knows he's being taken out. Haven't been bit yet. But recently had to start feeding in the viv since it's so cold in my house I don't think he wants to eat outside it so we'll see how long till I join the Bite Club..

Just cause I feed Stubbs at night I usually feed Noodle as Stubbs' rat is thawing, since Noodle's food thaws so much quicker.
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Re: First time snake owner, looking for help!

Im so confused on waht i should start feeding her after this feed, cause i know she likes live hoppers that is what the previous owners fed her for 2 years, and have neer tried dead. i dont know if i should order 3 dead and 3 live just in case she wont eat the dead?
I dont know if i should keep her eating hoppers or move her to a mouse? im sooo confused!
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If she is eating 3 hoppers in a week I would move up to 1 mouse. Also when you offer her F/t she might not take it and that's ok. Don't feed live right away just because she refused to eat f/t. Give her a full week with out bugging her at all then offer a nice warm f/t mouse again. After a few weeks she will take them. Snakes CAN go a long time with out eating and have no issues due to that. I switched my BP from live to f/t and he went about 5 months without eating but now he takes f/t like a champ. If you give in the snake will never take f/t.
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Im so confused on waht i should start feeding her after this feed, cause i know she likes live hoppers that is what the previous owners fed her for 2 years, and have neer tried dead. i dont know if i should order 3 dead and 3 live just in case she wont eat the dead?
I dont know if i should keep her eating hoppers or move her to a mouse? im sooo confused!
It can be quite confusing- so many different opinions out there!
Here is what I recommend:

Switch her over to f/t adult mice starting with the next feed. Corns usually switch over pretty easily. For her next feed, you should order a frozen adult mouse. We've given you lots of reasons for switching over to frozen/thawed prey, and how to do it. Remember the post I made about how to thaw the mouse? It's a few pages back

Do not order live prey "just in case she doesn't eat". Have faith that she will. That being said, if you offered her live prey after a failed frozen attempt, she'll assume that if she refuses the frozen, she'll get the live option. You want her to see the frozen/thawed mouse as her only choice of food. She'll eventually take it. If she doesn't take it the first time, don't give up. Sometimes it takes a while. But don't give up the fight! It is totally possible to do. Snakes can go a very long time without eating and not lose weight. Missing a meal (or two, or three, or four) won't do her any harm. If anything she'll just be hungrier each time and eventually cave in and eat it It helps if you do what I call "the nom nom dance" with the thawed prey, to entice her. It's to make it look alive. Here is a video of me doing it for my baby ball python so you get an idea of what it looks like:



You should also wait 7-10 days between attempts. Offering her food any more often will only stress her out.

Be persistent, don't stress about it, and success will be yours
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