Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by eminart

Albinism is rare in the wild because it puts the animal at a disadvantage. There's no reason to view the animal as "special" or somehow above the food chain.

i disagree mate

the fact that the animal reached the age it did regardless of all the disadvantages it faced,along with it being a rare occurrence in the first place.....

makes said creature special and should grant it special dispensation

re hunters
i have no issues with hunting in any shape or form.....

all my life i have hunted using a variety of methods which have included,guns,ferrets,lurchers,traps,etc

when i was younger i even did a bit of poaching,when my father and grandfather taught me how to feed myself without running to a super market or shop

but as a hunter i would not take the life of something so rare...

that's just my own personal feelings on the matter

as said in my last post...

each to their own



cheers shaun

[eminart]

Originally Posted by CosmicOwl

First of all, hunting with a crossbow is not, "taking part in nature."

It is indeed. Humans aren't exactly equipped to kill deer with our teeth. We've always used our brains and ingenuity to come up with easier ways to kill prey. But, if you think killing a deer with a crossbow is just killing and not hunting, I invite you to try it. I don't use a crossbow, but I've been bowhunting since I was 10, and it's a lot more difficult than you might think. A lot of non-hunters get their impression of deer from those that live in parks and neighborhoods and are fed by people all the time. It's a different animal that lives out in real nature.

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

i disagree mate

the fact that the animal reached the age it did regardless of all the disadvantages it faced,along with it being a rare occurrence in the first place.....

And now it caught up to it.

The fact is, albino deer tend to be genetically inferior. You never see a truly big one, they often have poor eyesight, and they have smaller antlers. Humans have replaced the deers' natural predators in most places, so WE are the ones that weed out the weak. If we let the albinos live because we think they're somehow special, we're just allowing inferior genes an unfair advantage over more robust genes.

So, it's not only a silly human sentiment to let the white ones walk, but it's also detrimental to the herd.

[David VB]

Originally Posted by eminart

It is indeed. Humans aren't exactly equipped to kill deer with our teeth. We've always used our brains and ingenuity to come up with easier ways to kill prey. But, if you think killing a deer with a crossbow is just killing and not hunting, I invite you to try it. I don't use a crossbow, but I've been bowhunting since I was 10, and it's a lot more difficult than you might think. A lot of non-hunters get their impression of deer from those that live in parks and neighborhoods and are fed by people all the time. It's a different animal that lives out in real nature.



And now it caught up to it.

The fact is, albino deer tend to be genetically inferior. You never see a truly big one, they often have poor eyesight, and they have smaller antlers. Humans have replaced the deers' natural predators in most places, so WE are the ones that weed out the weak. If we let the albinos live because we think they're somehow special, we're just allowing inferior genes an unfair advantage over more robust genes.

So, it's not only a silly human sentiment to let the white ones walk, but it's also detrimental to the herd.

Most of 'us humans' don't use it at all... Would be better to use it to save animals and help the planet getting healthy again instead of killing animals for pleasure!!!

[eminart]

Originally Posted by David VB

Most of 'us humans' don't use it at all... Would be better to use it to save animals and help the planet getting healthy again instead of killing animals for pleasure!!!

We really shouldn't get into this, but I'll just throw this out there........

Hunters have more respect for nature than non-hunters.

WHAT!? you say!

I assume you agree that in nature, animals eat other animals and it's all a big balance. I also assume that you agree that humans are omnivores, meaning that they evolved to eat at least some meat.

But, you're also going to say that it is now somehow superior to NOT eat meat, even though that is how nature is designed. So, you believe your silly human notions are superior to eons of natural design and nature. Why? Why is your sentimentality "better" than nature's design?

save animals and help the planet getting healthy again

I'd also like to add, that here in the U.S. where we have very well regulated game management, hunting DOES help the animals. If you think some animals falling to predators is bad, then you have absolutely no understanding of how nature works.

[David VB]

Originally Posted by eminart

We really shouldn't get into this, but I'll just throw this out there........

Hunters have more respect for nature than non-hunters.

WHAT!? you say!

I assume you agree that in nature, animals eat other animals and it's all a big balance. I also assume that you agree that humans are omnivores, meaning that they evolved to eat at least some meat.

But, you're also going to say that it is now somehow superior to NOT eat meat, even though that is how nature is designed. So, you believe your silly human notions are superior to eons of natural design and nature. Why? Why is your sentimentality "better" than nature's design?



I'd also like to add, that here in the U.S. where we have very well regulated game management, hunting DOES help the animals. If you think some animals falling to predators is bad, then you have absolutely no understanding of how nature works.

Can't you read or are you just ignorant??? I think i wrote i do eat meat and that a friend of mine is a hunter who kills to keep the balance in the piece of nature he's living/hunting in...

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by eminart

The fact is, albino deer tend to be genetically inferior. You never see a truly big one, they often have poor eyesight, and they have smaller antlers. Humans have replaced the deers' natural predators in most places, so WE are the ones that weed out the weak. If we let the albinos live because we think they're somehow special, we're just allowing inferior genes an unfair advantage over more robust genes.

So, it's not only a silly human sentiment to let the white ones walk, but it's also detrimental to the herd.

yes it's human sentiment.but imo it's not silly...


so we should kill albino lions.tigers.etc because they are detrimental to the pride

i'm sorry but that whole statement just makes me feel sorry for all those folk who cannot see it as a thing of beauty and just see it as another slab of inferior designed meat


cheers shaun