Your view of the reptile hobby

[poison123]

I would like to see less BP's and leos at shows and more frogs.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by poison123

I would like to see less BP's and leos at shows and more frogs.

Me too! Frogs are delicious!

[Brylee1233]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Me too! Frogs are delicious!

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I saw the coolest frog at the last show i went to... But I can't remember the name for it... it was a bigger frog and the guy told me that it was like a waxy frog (?) so you can hold them... it was about 90 dollars... Either way... If I could, I would get a frog like that next...

[poison123]

Originally Posted by Brylee1233

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I saw the coolest frog at the last show i went to... But I can't remember the name for it... it was a bigger frog and the guy told me that it was like a waxy frog (?) so you can hold them... it was about 90 dollars... Either way... If I could, I would get a frog like that next...

Guessing you mean bicolor tree frog/ giant waxy monkey tree frog -phyllomedusa bicolor (the one in my avatar). Wouldnt recommend them as they are all WC and can be very hard to get acclimated to captivity.

[Brylee1233]

Originally Posted by poison123

Guessing you mean bicolor tree frog/ giant waxy monkey tree frog -phyllomedusa bicolor (the one in my avatar). Wouldnt recommend them as they are all WC and can be very hard to get acclimated to captivity.

Oh.. I see... I didn't do any research on them because I don't want to get to "attached" because I can't get one for a long time.... But thank you!

[poison123]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Me too! Frogs are delicious!

Never was a fan of frog legs.

[lady_bug87]

Originally Posted by poison123

I would like to see less BP's and leos at shows and more frogs.

That was Aaron's point. If you want to see something new, make it happen. Don't wait for someone else to do all the work for you.

[poison123]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

Don't wait for someone else to do all the work for you.

eh. Its easier if I just let someone else do it . I'm not in a hurry.

[lady_bug87]

Originally Posted by poison123

eh. Its easier if I just let someone else do it . I'm not in a hurry.

If you have no intention of doing anything you forfeit the right to complain.

[poison123]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

If you have no intention of doing anything you forfeit the right to complain.

Didnt know thats how things worked?

I'm selfish

[lady_bug87]

Originally Posted by poison123

Didnt know thats how things worked?

The way I see it its only fair, you want someone else to invest the money in a species you want to see, they spend the time and resources raising it and breeding it, then buy a table at a show spending more time and more money just so you can walk by a table and say "oh cool a frog"

[poison123]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

you want someone else to invest the money in a species you want to see, they spend the time and resources raising it and breeding it, then buy a table at a show spending more time and more money just so you can walk by a table and say "oh cool a frog"

Yeah thats pretty much it. May talk to the vendor about it and take some pics as well.

Thats what I would like to see.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by poison123

eh. Its easier if I just let someone else do it . I'm not in a hurry.

SO what you're saying is you expect someone else to do it. It hasn't happened yet and you think someone is just going to go and do it all for you. The sadder part is you won't even support that person. You said you'd take a pic (because you're cheap) and not support what YOU YOURSELF wanted to see changed! So what kind of encouragement is it to that person to continue that? Absolutely none.

Most likely it isn't going to happen if it hasn't already. It isn't like frogs are something brand new...

My expectation (and I guess that's where I was wrong in actually having any) is that this thread wouldn't just be complaints. It would spark discussion on what someone can do and was going to go do.

Instead we got people (and I use that term lightly) complaining about this and that (mostly common morph animals as per the usual) and expecting someone else to fix things because this that or the other thing.

This is why we have the government making and passing laws. The mindset is always "someone else will do it for me".

The truth is no one else is. Yes there are groups out there but they need actually support. Not some random petition (they don't work) with random names from places that are a 1000 miles away (politicians seriously don't care about those people).
The sadder truth is when I went to those meetings there were very few people in attendance for any support. It's sad that the giant keepers never showed up either.

I agree with Lori. If you aren't willling to do anything about it then you forfeit the right to complain.

Just like those people who don't vote but complain about the elected official.

[poison123]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

SO what you're saying is you expect someone else to do it.

Not expecting anything but I would like it if this happened.

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

It hasn't happened yet and you think someone is just going to go and do it all for you. The sadder part is you won't even support that person. You said you'd take a pic (because you're cheap) and not support what YOU YOURSELF wanted to see changed! So what kind of encouragement is it to that person to continue that? Absolutely none.

Don't know why words are being put in my mouth now. I don't think anybody is going to do it for me. I said no such thing. All I said was "I would like to see". If someone did what I liked then I would support them by saying "good job" or a pat on the back if thats what you would like? May purchase the animal depending on what we're talking about.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by poison123

Not expecting anything but I would like it if this happened.



Don't know why words are being put in my mouth now. I don't think anybody is going to do it for me. I said no such thing....

Huh? How about that? I put words into mouths.

Originally Posted by poison123

eh. Its easier if I just let someone else do it . I'm not in a hurry.

There's your quote saying you will "let" someone else do it because it's easier for you.

Fairly certain that means you think someone else will.

Another point I was trying to make earlier is exactly what you said about supporting someone. You will say "good job" like a lot of other people who wish to see something "different" at a show.
You all literally mean "see" something. You're using someone else's time, money and effort for you to have a cheap zoo experience. Quit complaining about it unless you plan to do something about it.