Your view of the reptile hobby

[formica]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Here's a good question, instead of complaining about it on the internet, what are you currently doing to change it?

here is a better question, what exactly is your point? what have you brought to this discussion which is of any value to the topic? all I can see are comments designed to belittle anyone with an opinion, with no participation in the discussion itself. they have a word for that you know.

sounds to me like you are being contrary just for its own sake. and there is little value in that - it certainly has less value than the discussion itself.


and FYI, in a world which values intelligent decision making; discussion's, come before actions.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by formica

here is a better question, what exactly is your point? what have you brought to this discussion which is of any value to the topic? all I can see are comments designed to belittle anyone with an opinion, with no participation in the discussion itself. they have a word for that you know.

sounds to me like you are being contrary just for its own sake. and there is little value in that - it certainly has less value than the discussion itself.


and FYI, in a world which values intelligent decision making; discussion's, come before actions.

My point is simple. People came to this thread and belittled MY hobby. I defended it.

and FYI this "discussion" has been going on for YEARS. When does action occur?

Here are two instances where I was involved in the discussion. You can stop trying to paint me in one particular light that you see me in.

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/900946-post39.html

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/900945-post38.html

I await my apology for lying about me and my participation in the discussion.

[formica]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

My point is simple. People came to this thread and belittled MY hobby. I defended it.

and FYI this "discussion" has been going on for YEARS. When does action occur?

Here are two instances where I was involved in the discussion. You can stop trying to paint me in one particular light that you see me in.

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/900946-post39.html

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/900945-post38.html

I await my apology for lying about me and my participation in the discussion.

neither of those links are about this topic.

this is not YOUR hobby, it is all of ours, and nothing ever progresses without criticism, i dont see why you feel the need to take it personally and then attack everyone who points out things which need to be pointed out....because currently, people are happy to just forget those problems exist. Its really no wonder there are so many direct action and lobby groups attacking OUR hobby.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by formica

neither of those links are about this topic.

this is not YOUR hobby, it is all of ours, and nothing ever progresses without criticism, i dont see why you feel the need to take it personally and then attack everyone who points out things which need to be pointed out....because currently, people are happy to just forget those problems exist. Its really no wonder there are so many direct action and lobby groups attacking OUR hobby.

It's alright, there's no need to continue this. This back and forth started from him feeling personally attacked at people criticizing the ball python morph craze. Whatever you or I say will not make him stop. I've tried to make him understand that the point of my statements were to just express my opinions but apparently he felt attacked and wants me to feel bad for not "doing anything about it".

He labels it "complaining, "whining", "lazy" when I'm just expressing my thoughts on a thread.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by formica

neither of those links are about this topic.

this is not YOUR hobby, it is all of ours, and nothing ever progresses without criticism, i dont see why you feel the need to take it personally and then attack everyone who points out things which need to be pointed out....because currently, people are happy to just forget those problems exist. Its really no wonder there are so many direct action and lobby groups attacking OUR hobby.

The topic is about change? How were those not about change? I answered someone's further inquiry into changing a specific topic in the current hobby.

Are you now telling me what I can and cannot discuss and how it's irrelavent to what YOU want to talk about? Nothing has to be railroaded into a specific topic...if it was considered detrimental to the conversation then the mods would deal with it.