Uh-oh. I'm probably gonna' be in trouble

**Aaron_S** · 02-03-14, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shann

Should be. Unfortunately when this comes to something like keep in snakes, we are all lumped together by the general public.

Exactly.

We can't be constantly trying to be a community and individuals at the same time...

Pick one.

**EL Ziggy** · 02-03-14, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Exactly.

We can't be constantly trying to be a community and individuals at the same time...

Pick one.

A community is made up of individuals. We may share a common hobby but we are only responsible for our personal actions. You can't be held accountable for what I do, nor can I be held liable for the actions of another, unless we conspired together.

Mikoh4792 · 02-03-14, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

A community is made up of individuals. We may share a common hobby but we are only responsible for our personal actions. You can't be held accountable for what I do, nor can I be held liable for the actions of another, unless we conspired together.

Sadly a lot of times the outside does not look at it that way. When one person messes up, it can affect the community as a whole. But I guess educating people does help in making more rational judgements about us.

robertjnovak59 · 02-03-14, 01:34 PM

I think that would be an interesting legal argument. If you owned a morph, that wasnt found in the wild, of an indigenous species wouldn't you still be legal within the intent of the law since the morph proves it wasnt a wild snake?

**Aaron_S** · 02-03-14, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by robertjnovak59

I think that would be an interesting legal argument. If you owned a morph, that wasnt found in the wild, of an indigenous species wouldn't you still be legal within the intent of the law since the morph proves it wasnt a wild snake?

It's still of the same species.

I know here in Ontario you can't own Eastern hognose snakes. No matter where they came from. To the law it's all the same and I think it may have to do with releasing them into wild populations as well.

A captive animal can introduce bad things to wild populations too.

Alexa · 02-03-14, 03:07 PM

And the "bad bugs" stuff happens all the time.

The example that I am most familiar with is the California Desert Tortoise. Captive tortoises have introduced respiratory diseases to wild desert tortoises, causing many fatalities.

I would love to see a wild desert tortoise, but between habitat loss, introduces predators, and introduced diseases, I may never be able to do that.

The regulatory agencies are doing their best with the information they have, much of which comes from herpetologists and other scientific researchers who are in the field doing the best they can to conserve species that we love, and that we need.

The government frequently doesn't go about it the best way, but they are (usually) doing what they can to protect the native wildlife. And they sometimes have some damn good reasons for doing what they do.

**Aaron_S** · 02-03-14, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

A community is made up of individuals. We may share a common hobby but we are only responsible for our personal actions. You can't be held accountable for what I do, nor can I be held liable for the actions of another, unless we conspired together.

Too bad that's not how the world works.