Turbine eating in the air.

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

But you are. You said several posts ago that feeding in a tub greatly reduces the risk of getting struck... so in other words you are saying it's better than feeding inside the enclosure, and also chastising people who feed their snakes in their cages for not allotting the time to care for their snakes. Time is not the reason I choose to feed inside the enclosure.

not once have i chastising what so ever, simply stating my opinion, i feed them in seperatre enclosures to reduce the chance ofhostility as wekk as imcation ,it maybe uncommen, but not unheard of, can you justify feeding in the encloser? better safe then sorry is my motto and nothig but the best for my snakes, id hate to come back to a feeding and see my snake wth a mouthfull of bedding, once again, not commen but not unherd of.
if you dont want to feed in a seperate enclosure then thats your choise,. once agina, since times not the reason you feed outside the cage, can you justify the fact you dont?

[CosmicOwl]

Originally Posted by Ks42

not once have i chastising what so ever, simply stating my opinion, i feed them in seperatre enclosures to reduce the chance ofhostility as wekk as imcation ,it maybe uncommen, but not unheard of, can you justify feeding in the encloser? better safe then sorry is my motto and nothig but the best for my snakes, id hate to come back to a feeding and see my snake wth a mouthfull of bedding, once again, not commen but not unherd of.
if you dont want to feed in a seperate enclosure then thats your choise,. once agina, since times not the reason you feed outside the cage, can you justify the fact you dont?

There's no logic behind the idea that feeding in a separate enclosure makes a snake less aggressive. You can easily reverse the theory and say that feeding a snake in a separate enclosure will cause them to associate being taken out of the cage with being fed. Thus it would be more likely that they will bite you any time you take them out o their environment.

Feeding in a separate tub just adds unnecessary stress to an animal.You're taking a snake out of the enclosure it's accustomed to, moving it to an alien enclosure, feeding it, and then picking it up and moving it back to it's normal enclosure. If you don't see how that is more stressful(and likely to cause aggression) than simply feeding your snake in it's enclosure, than you might need to reevaluate your understanding of reptile husbandry.

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by CosmicOwl

There's no logic behind the idea that feeding in a separate enclosure makes a snake less aggressive. You can easily reverse the theory and say that feeding a snake in a separate enclosure will cause them to associate being taken out of the cage with being fed. Thus it would be more likely that they will bite you any time you take them out o their environment.

Feeding in a separate tub just adds unnecessary stress to an animal.You're taking a snake out of the enclosure it's accustomed to, moving it to an alien enclosure, feeding it, and then picking it up and moving it back to it's normal enclosure. If you don't see how that is more stressful(and likely to cause aggression) than simply feeding your snake in it's enclosure, than you might need to reevaluate your understanding of reptile husbandry.

well considering all my snakes have been tub fed since they were babies as well as handled almost every day for a period of about 40 minutes and not once has any snake in my collection ever reared up at me or showed agretion in any way what so ever, now on the other hand, the second i out them in the feeding tubs, any thing that enters the enclosure is reconized as food, , my snakes are ecxtreamly agressive and stoong feeders, mouse doesnt even touch the ground and its already in its mouth.

to cockly reply to your comment, do you try and eat befor youre seated at your supper table? not likley
as for my understanding of husbandry, ive never encounters a problem relating towards that topic or any problem with my snakes for that matter, one picky feeder is the only thing i have to deal with and thats been solved with a few assists feeds, now hes eating all on his own and happier then ever, so if my understanding of husbandry is misguided, id like to first see signs from my several snakes befor id say my understandings of the husbndry is misguided, you sir are just ignorent

[CosmicOwl]

Originally Posted by Ks42

well considering all my snakes have been tub fed since they were babies as well as handled almost every day for a period of about 40 minutes and not once has any snake in my collection ever reared up at me or showed agretion in any way what so ever, now on the other hand, the second i out them in the feeding tubs, any thing that enters the enclosure is reconized as food, , my snakes are ecxtreamly agressive and stoong feeders, mouse doesnt even touch the ground and its already in its mouth.

to cockly reply to your comment, do you try and eat befor youre seated at your supper table? not likley
as for my understanding of husbandry, ive never encounters a problem relating towards that topic or any problem with my snakes for that matter, one picky feeder is the only thing i have to deal with and thats been solved with a few assists feeds, now hes eating all on his own and happier then ever, so if my understanding of husbandry is misguided, id like to first see signs from my several snakes befor id say my understandings of the husbndry is misguided, you sir are just ignorent

The problem with what you're saying is that it is completely anecdotal. There are plenty of people who have managed to keep animals alive despite having poor husbandry. It doesn't mean that such conditions are actually acceptable or beneficial.

I called your husbandry into question because you don't seem to understand how moving around a a snake that is about to be fed/has eaten is much more stressful that simply feeding the snake in its enclosure.

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by CosmicOwl

The problem with what you're saying is that it is completely anecdotal. There are plenty of people who have managed to keep animals alive despite having poor husbandry. It doesn't mean that such conditions are actually acceptable or beneficial.

I called your husbandry into question because you don't seem to understand how moving around a a snake that is about to be fed/has eaten is much more stressful that simply feeding the snake in its enclosure.

my understanding is husbandry refers to what they are housed in, not how the snake in handled? my snakes have never refused a meal or regurgitated, if there were problems in my husbandry or with handling my snakes, wouldnt i have some issues?
4 yearswith larger snakes and no issues i seem to be doing it right in my opinion, and i belive my snakes go to show it

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by CosmicOwl

There's no logic behind the idea that feeding in a separate enclosure makes a snake less aggressive. You can easily reverse the theory and say that feeding a snake in a separate enclosure will cause them to associate being taken out of the cage with being fed. Thus it would be more likely that they will bite you any time you take them out o their environment.

Feeding in a separate tub just adds unnecessary stress to an animal.You're taking a snake out of the enclosure it's accustomed to, moving it to an alien enclosure, feeding it, and then picking it up and moving it back to it's normal enclosure. If you don't see how that is more stressful(and likely to cause aggression) than simply feeding your snake in it's enclosure, than you might need to reevaluate your understanding of reptile husbandry.

to address your comment about the alien encloser, my snakes have been using the same feeding tubs since there were hatched,so its VERY unlikley that its considers an alien enviroment, more like a secontd home/ resturant. its there dinner table and every single one of my snakes realize and acknowledge that face. proof is by them eating and me never being it. dont like it? deal with it an ddo it your way,