Turbine eating in the air.

[poison123]

Originally Posted by Ks42

calm as a cucumber,
to adress the question, an empty enclosure allows you to fully view both the snake aswell as the live food allowing no where for them to dig under substrate or hide out of view,, keeping a close eye on live feeding so you dont end up with your snake becoming rat food,

to adress the fozen feeding topic, this is for the people who have the issue with there snake possibly consuming there substraight,which if youre using the proper bedding then it shouldnt be a problem, i have herd stories that other keepers snakes have injested bedding thus "causing" death,

its not uncommen for substraight or bedding to cantain FM *foreign material* such as plant seeds, fungi spors and in one case i am rather familiar with, spider/fly eggs. so baking your bedding befor using it is very much encouraged.

Thank for your reply

Snakes generally don't go off to hide once they've got ahold of their prey item. Once they finish feeding then yes.

I too have heard these stories but a lot of times it is just assumptions and the snakes don't get taken to the vet to find out.

Spider eggs and fly eggs will not do any harm if ingested. They would get digested in a matter of time. No clue on how harmful fungal spors are.

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by poison123

Thank for your reply

Snakes generally don't go off to hide once they've got ahold of their prey item. Once they finish feeding then yes.

I too have heard these stories but a lot of times it is just assumptions and the snakes don't get taken to the vet to find out.

Spider eggs and fly eggs will not do any harm if ingested. They would get digested in a matter of time. No clue on how harmful fungal spors are.

fungi spors are the leading cause of lung and respritory issues and can caus alot of issues, and are also very commen in coco husk bedidng as well as plantation soil. nbaking is a must if you ask me

[Starbuck]

Originally Posted by Ks42

fungi spors are the leading cause of lung and respiratory issues and can caus alot of issues, and are also very commen in coco husk bedidng as well as plantation soil. nbaking is a must if you ask me

Every time you pick up your snake, or fill its water dish from the tap, or feed it a live prey item, you are introducing it to fungal spores and bacteria. The World is not sterile, and a properly picked up snake enclosure is not going to kill your snake with exposure to these microbes. Additionally, not all fungi causes disease, i can eat a whole tub of bakers yeast and i won't get a lung infection; it takes the right microbe at the right time, with access to the right environment to cause illness.
A healthy, adult snake with access to proper humidity and temperatures, regardless of its substrate (or ingestion of that substrate... unless maybe it ate a whole slab of repticarpet or something) is NOT going to get sick from 'fungal spores' in its bedding.

I have never baked my substrates, and have used cocohusk, aspen, newspaper, and now cypress mulch, and i have never had an issue with respiratory infections in any of my snakes.

Some of the healthiest, and best-kept snakes on this forum use bio-active substrate, picked up outside and dumped right into the enclosure.

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by Starbuck

Every time you pick up your snake, or fill its water dish from the tap, or feed it a live prey item, you are introducing it to fungal spores and bacteria. The World is not sterile, and a properly picked up snake enclosure is not going to kill your snake with exposure to these microbes. Additionally, not all fungi causes disease, i can eat a whole tub of bakers yeast and i won't get a lung infection; it takes the right microbe at the right time, with access to the right environment to cause illness.
A healthy, adult snake with access to proper humidity and temperatures, regardless of its substrate (or ingestion of that substrate... unless maybe it ate a whole slab of repticarpet or something) is NOT going to get sick from 'fungal spores' in its bedding.

I have never baked my substrates, and have used cocohusk, aspen, newspaper, and now cypress mulch, and i have never had an issue with respiratory infections in any of my snakes.

Some of the healthiest, and best-kept snakes on this forum use bio-active substrate, picked up outside and dumped right into the enclosure.

well to adres this in a rather apropriate manner. i run and work at a pet stor for the past 8 years, even my suppliers suggest baking bedding due to FM like spores, several cases have occured were mushrooms have gronw and becomes visible within there enclosure, high humidity and darkness are key in mushroom grown,

fungal spors are one lead cause in respritory problems. this is a true fact, just likenot all fungi are dangerious but why wouldnt you take the propper precautiings to ensure a a good enclosure. safty first. if the people who produce it and provide it suggest you to bake it as a precautiobn, why wouldnt you, few minutes out of your day for a spore free enviroment and an even more controled encloser.
the question is, why wouldnt you bake somehting that can be potentialy dangerious to somehting you love?

[poison123]

Originally Posted by Ks42

ive posted everything as my own and friends opinions ,

Did you?,,,

Originally Posted by Ks42

fungal spors are one lead cause in respritory problems. this is a true fact,

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by poison123

Did you?,,,

from the infomation on mold and excessive spor inhalation ive read, yes, spores can cause lung infections,
me stating this is a fact was myslef being slightly egotistical and trusting somehting i read on an unfarmiliar site, my apologies. that being said, it isnt compleatly incorect due to the fact that yes mold spores can cause lung infections