Turbine eating in the air.

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

It's just my opinion but.... I don't think snakes have the cognitive ability to know "this is my feeding tub". They just go into feeding mode when the smell of food is around.

I'm also speaking from personal experience. I feed every single one of my snakes in their enclosures and always have. I've never gotten a food response bite inside the enclosure, only defensive bites.

Again, speaking only by my opinion, I think moving a snake into a tub and then out of it for feeding purposes causes undue stress, especially after a meal.

snakes reconize sents and smells, thus reconizing the sent of previous feeding//mice in that same enclosure
i myself feed in seperate tubs, never once have i been bit by any of my BPs Boas, or colubridae,with the exception of my ratsnake being an ******* and have never once been struck or even shown signs of hostility,

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Ks42

snakes reconize sents and smells, thus reconizing the sent of previous feeding//mice in that same enclosure
i myself feed in seperate tubs, never once have i been bit by any of my BPs Boas, or colubridae,with the exception of my ratsnake being an ******* and have never once been struck or even shown signs of hostility,

But I'm not arguing that using a feeding tub raises the risk. I'm only arguing that feeding inside the enclosure is just as good.

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

But I'm not arguing that using a feeding tub raises the risk. I'm only arguing that feeding inside the enclosure is just as good.

nor am i, im just stating my opinions as a snake /petstor owner that has encounterd both sides of the fence,
close friend and customer who currentlly pushing 32 diffrent snakes most with breeding pairs has agreed with most things i am saying, regaurdless that he feeds in the enlosures , his snakes are also straight breeders, mine are my family,friends,and children, so i like to make the little acomadations for them

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Ks42

nor am i, im just stating my opinions as a snake /petstor owner that has encounterd both sides of the fence,
close friend and customer who currentlly pushing 32 diffrent snakes most with breeding pairs has agreed with most things i am saying, regaurdless that he feeds in the enlosures , his snakes are also straight breeders, mine are my family,friends,and children, so i like to make the little acomadations for them

But you are. You said several posts ago that feeding in a tub greatly reduces the risk of getting struck... so in other words you are saying it's better than feeding inside the enclosure, and also chastising people who feed their snakes in their cages for not allotting the time to care for their snakes. Time is not the reason I choose to feed inside the enclosure.

from experience i can say feeding in a separate encloser greatly reduces the chance of being mistaken for feeding time,thus resulting in being struck, if its really to much of a problem to spend 15 minutes swapping enclosers for feeding time then why spend the time and money owning/caring for a snake.

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

But you are. You said several posts ago that feeding in a tub greatly reduces the risk of getting struck... so in other words you are saying it's better than feeding inside the enclosure, and also chastising people who feed their snakes in their cages for not allotting the time to care for their snakes. Time is not the reason I choose to feed inside the enclosure.

not once have i chastising what so ever, simply stating my opinion, i feed them in seperatre enclosures to reduce the chance ofhostility as wekk as imcation ,it maybe uncommen, but not unheard of, can you justify feeding in the encloser? better safe then sorry is my motto and nothig but the best for my snakes, id hate to come back to a feeding and see my snake wth a mouthfull of bedding, once again, not commen but not unherd of.
if you dont want to feed in a seperate enclosure then thats your choise,. once agina, since times not the reason you feed outside the cage, can you justify the fact you dont?

[CosmicOwl]

Originally Posted by Ks42

not once have i chastising what so ever, simply stating my opinion, i feed them in seperatre enclosures to reduce the chance ofhostility as wekk as imcation ,it maybe uncommen, but not unheard of, can you justify feeding in the encloser? better safe then sorry is my motto and nothig but the best for my snakes, id hate to come back to a feeding and see my snake wth a mouthfull of bedding, once again, not commen but not unherd of.
if you dont want to feed in a seperate enclosure then thats your choise,. once agina, since times not the reason you feed outside the cage, can you justify the fact you dont?

There's no logic behind the idea that feeding in a separate enclosure makes a snake less aggressive. You can easily reverse the theory and say that feeding a snake in a separate enclosure will cause them to associate being taken out of the cage with being fed. Thus it would be more likely that they will bite you any time you take them out o their environment.

Feeding in a separate tub just adds unnecessary stress to an animal.You're taking a snake out of the enclosure it's accustomed to, moving it to an alien enclosure, feeding it, and then picking it up and moving it back to it's normal enclosure. If you don't see how that is more stressful(and likely to cause aggression) than simply feeding your snake in it's enclosure, than you might need to reevaluate your understanding of reptile husbandry.

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by CosmicOwl

There's no logic behind the idea that feeding in a separate enclosure makes a snake less aggressive. You can easily reverse the theory and say that feeding a snake in a separate enclosure will cause them to associate being taken out of the cage with being fed. Thus it would be more likely that they will bite you any time you take them out o their environment.

Feeding in a separate tub just adds unnecessary stress to an animal.You're taking a snake out of the enclosure it's accustomed to, moving it to an alien enclosure, feeding it, and then picking it up and moving it back to it's normal enclosure. If you don't see how that is more stressful(and likely to cause aggression) than simply feeding your snake in it's enclosure, than you might need to reevaluate your understanding of reptile husbandry.

well considering all my snakes have been tub fed since they were babies as well as handled almost every day for a period of about 40 minutes and not once has any snake in my collection ever reared up at me or showed agretion in any way what so ever, now on the other hand, the second i out them in the feeding tubs, any thing that enters the enclosure is reconized as food, , my snakes are ecxtreamly agressive and stoong feeders, mouse doesnt even touch the ground and its already in its mouth.

to cockly reply to your comment, do you try and eat befor youre seated at your supper table? not likley
as for my understanding of husbandry, ive never encounters a problem relating towards that topic or any problem with my snakes for that matter, one picky feeder is the only thing i have to deal with and thats been solved with a few assists feeds, now hes eating all on his own and happier then ever, so if my understanding of husbandry is misguided, id like to first see signs from my several snakes befor id say my understandings of the husbndry is misguided, you sir are just ignorent

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by CosmicOwl

There's no logic behind the idea that feeding in a separate enclosure makes a snake less aggressive. You can easily reverse the theory and say that feeding a snake in a separate enclosure will cause them to associate being taken out of the cage with being fed. Thus it would be more likely that they will bite you any time you take them out o their environment.

Feeding in a separate tub just adds unnecessary stress to an animal.You're taking a snake out of the enclosure it's accustomed to, moving it to an alien enclosure, feeding it, and then picking it up and moving it back to it's normal enclosure. If you don't see how that is more stressful(and likely to cause aggression) than simply feeding your snake in it's enclosure, than you might need to reevaluate your understanding of reptile husbandry.

to address your comment about the alien encloser, my snakes have been using the same feeding tubs since there were hatched,so its VERY unlikley that its considers an alien enviroment, more like a secontd home/ resturant. its there dinner table and every single one of my snakes realize and acknowledge that face. proof is by them eating and me never being it. dont like it? deal with it an ddo it your way,