The UVB Varanid debate !

smy_749 · 01-09-14, 05:51 PM

Wayne has UVB I thought, just the fixture is higher up than recommended.

murrindindi · 01-09-14, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

Wayne has UVB I thought, just the fixture is higher up than recommended.

Hi, initially I believe the UVB tube was fixed on the ceiling which means it was around 4 feet away, making it of no benefit whatsoever, then Wayne mentioned afew months ago he`d moved it closer (18 inches), that still makes it of virtually no use as far as any significant UVB`s concerned.
I do fully appreciate he was worried the monitors might climb on it and break it (very possible), though it would be fairly easy to place a guard around it...

infernalis · 01-13-14, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by murrindindi

Hi, initially I believe the UVB tube was fixed on the ceiling which means it was around 4 feet away,

The only way your math works here is assuming a recessed fixture and a bare cage floor.

Light fixture hangs down fom cieling of cage nearly 12 inches, soil substrate on floor of cage 24 inches deep.

4 feet is 48 inches, subtract the 36 inches and figure the rest out for yourself.

Now figure that my lizards still walk tall, their backs almost brush in direct contact with that tube.

jarich · 01-13-14, 11:42 AM

I have my latest results but they would not be particularly useful in this case either. My female was just going into egg production when I got them, so her calcium is through the roof, uric acid high, etc. However, none of these tests show a measure of the D metabolites, which is the only test that the difference would show up on.

formica · 01-13-14, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jarich

I have my latest results but they would not be particularly useful in this case either. My female was just going into egg production when I got them, so her calcium is through the roof, uric acid high, etc. However, none of these tests show a measure of the D metabolites, which is the only test that the difference would show up on.

any results are useful if they are accompanied by other info, for eg as you said, going into egg production - although we have to be cautious, as there are innumerable variables which only a specialist would be able to analyse properly

murrindindi · 01-13-14, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jarich

I have my latest results but they would not be particularly useful in this case either. My female was just going into egg production when I got them, so her calcium is through the roof, uric acid high, etc. However, none of these tests show a measure of the D metabolites, which is the only test that the difference would show up on.

Hi Josh, it`s a shame you`ve only found out recently you have a female, I wonder how many times she`s been gravid in the past (I`m pretty sure she would have been)?
Have you thought about keeping a weight record, it would be very useful in watching for any sudden gains?

jarich · 01-13-14, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by murrindindi

Hi Josh, it`s a shame you`ve only found out recently you have a female, I wonder how many times she`s been gravid in the past (I`m pretty sure she would have been)?
Have you thought about keeping a weight record, it would be very useful in watching for any sudden gains?

Indeed it is. Im a little upset the first vet I took her to originally didnt catch it, but then she was quite young then.

I suppose I could keep weighing her, but I dont like lifting her up that often. She is fine with me touching her as long as I dont pick her up. Lifting her completely tends to get me the silent treatment for a few days.

murrindindi · 01-13-14, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jarich

Indeed it is. Im a little upset the first vet I took her to originally didnt catch it, but then she was quite young then.

I suppose I could keep weighing her, but I dont like lifting her up that often. She is fine with me touching her as long as I dont pick her up. Lifting her completely tends to get me the silent treatment for a few days.

Maybe you could make a platform to fit on top of some digital scales, leave some bits of food on top and get a measurement?
I remember Aja Michelle`s female gaining weight at times, Aja was never quite sure whether she was gravid or just too heavy (I personally thought she was gravid).