Babies!!!!!!! - Page 2

Will0W783 · 10-07-13, 07:22 AM

Hahah, thanks. They are little demons....some of them rear up and gape their tiny mouths as soon as I open their lids! It's precious....so darned cute! I'm happy when they threaten and strike at me- it means they are healthy and lively. I'm going to let them shed out and then get a few meals in them, and they'll be ready for sale to new homes.

SSSSnakes · 10-07-13, 08:18 AM

Very COOL. It's always exciting when you get a clutch of babies. When you are ready to sell them, let me know. You can PM me or email me direct.

Will0W783 · 10-07-13, 09:20 AM

Will do. Thanks Jerrry.

Terranaut · 10-07-13, 03:57 PM

Can't believe how small they are. Congrats.

Akuma223 · 10-07-13, 07:08 PM

Hey why don't you post pics of them gaping, or maybe a vid? That would be awesome once you get the time!

Will0W783 · 10-09-13, 07:19 AM

Akuma223, I'll do my best. They are very tiny, and the only camcorder I have is on my cell phone.

Akuma223 · 10-09-13, 02:56 PM

Okay cool

Will0W783 · 10-13-13, 06:21 PM

I haven't been able to catch them gaping again, but today a few of them shed and took their first meals

Will0W783 · 10-14-13, 01:19 PM

Freshly shed baby pictures:

Mikoh4792 · 10-14-13, 02:15 PM

woah those are some cool looking snakes. Congrats! Making me want to breed even more!

pinsonoso · 10-15-13, 01:59 AM

What are they exactly?

Sublimeballs · 10-15-13, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

congrats on the little demons

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Originally Posted by pinsonoso

What are they exactly?

Eyelash pit vipers,more specifically a crotalid related to rattle snakes, copperheads, water moccasins, fer de lance, etc...

Gorgeous babies, I've always wanted an eyelash. I got a T. Albolabris for my first hot as a sort of easing myself into working with a venomous on a daily basis. It's been 2 years not so much as a sketchy moment(amazing what proper handeling techniques can do, lol). I'm going to breed my female before i decide to get any more hots so I've got the feel for every aspect of care. Cant wait to see the same sight in my enclosure, I'm so jealous.

Will0W783 · 10-16-13, 06:49 AM

Thanks guys. Sublimeballs, C. albolabris are great pit vipers too...I actually don't have any yet, but hope to get some going soon. I noticed you called it "T." for Trimeresurus...do you know if they actually put Cryptelytrops back into Trimeresurus? There was talk of reworking the taxonomy and putting a lot of the smaller genera of pit vipers (Cryptelytrops, Viridovipera, Popeia) back into Trimeresurus, but I never heard the actual outcome. Personally, I think the face shapes are different enough to warrant them staying separate...but that's just my opinion.

I'd love to see some pictures of your albolabris...and can't wait to see you producing some adorable little death worms!

Sublimeballs · 10-16-13, 09:17 AM

Ill have to post some pics at some point. I haven't posted any pics of any of my collection yet, every time I go to take pics I end up finding a cage that needs cleaned and put it off. Last I heard they were classified under trimeresurus. They are great little pit vipers I almost got a wagleri but I'm glad I went with the albolabris. Oh and you can call me Gage.

Will0W783 · 10-18-13, 07:23 AM

Wagleri are amazing snakes- absolutely stunning, very docile and impressive. Unfortunately, they all seem to go downhill in captivity after about 2 years and die. There's a lot of debate right now about whether it's more environmental or diet-based, but the latest study seems to suggest it might be related to a captive diet. A scientist in Malaysia collected deceased Wagleri and also induced regurgitation in others (I think a total of about 120 specimens) and found nothing but frog matter in their stomachs. He also necropsied dead captive specimens and found evidence of fatty liver and kidney failure. This would suggest that a diet of low-moisture, fatty rodents is slowly taxing their kidneys and liver. Thus the snakes appear to do well for a few years, then when the damage to their organs reaches critical load, they just spiral downhill and die. It's so sad- they are soo soo beautiful. If I ever have the opportunity to own some again, I will try maintaining them on a frog-only diet and hope they do well.