Please Help - Cat Bullying

[formica]

read the articals, the first one clearly shows how the collars where used and how they affected the animals. you cant seriously be saying that groups like the RSPCA, DEFRA and the Kennel Club UK know less about this than you do. The evidence is all there, should you choose to investigate it for yourself, rather than sticking to a belief that is founded only in your own limited experience.

and FYI, the most powerful electrical currents in the human body, in the heart operate at less than 150mV at less than 10 nanoampres, that current is miniscule compared to a 9V battery which can deliver 0.5amps, delivered fast enough it can be more than that, that is thousands of times more current than a human nerve.

[Amadeus]

Originally Posted by formica

read the articals, the first one clearly shows how the collars where used and how they affected the animals. you cant seriously be saying that groups like the RSPCA, DEFRA and the Kennel Club UK know less about this than you do. The evidence is all there, should you choose to investigate it for yourself, rather than sticking to a belief that is founded only in your own limited experience.

and FYI, the most powerful electrical currents in the human body, in the heart operate at less than 150mV at less than 10 nanoampres, that current is miniscule compared to a 9V battery which can deliver 0.5amps, delivered fast enough it can be more than that, that is thousands of times more current than a human nerve.

Ok look up how much current goes from the brain through to the spinal cord.

[formica]

Originally Posted by Amadeus

Ok look up how much current goes from the brain through to the spinal cord.

why dont post up the refrence to the number that you have? or have you not found one?

besides, nerve cells are insulated, it is not an uncontrolled current surging randomly thru the bodies tissues, as is the case with an electrical current passed thru the skin. Nerve pulses are very short, very low voltage and very low current, they are not constant.

[Amadeus]

Originally Posted by formica

why dont post up the refrence to the number that you have? or have you not found one?

besides, nerve cells are insulated, it is not an uncontrolled current surging randomly thru the bodies tissues, as is the case with an electrical current passed thru the skin. Nerve pulses are very short, very low voltage and very low current, they are not constant.

Forget the biological debate.

Are you still arguing about negative reinforcement or do you think it is inhumane to use shock/e-collars? Dude do you actually think these animals are fragile enough for a tiny amount of current to injure them or do you just think you are better than someone who uses these products. Have you ever been shocked by electricity? A 9 volt battery on your tongue tingles. A shock from 12 volts stings. A car battery will make whatever part you touched it with numb for a few hours.

How much current does an e-collar actually give to the animal? Seriously. I'd like to know.