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04-05-13, 06:13 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
Well, from what I can see even though hes usually pretty muddy, he does fit the description for juxtindicus with regards to tail/neck patterning, the only thing is his throat is not white, its a bit peachy. No blue whatsoever, and the yellows are not deep yellow, more of an off white. Heres one more vid I took, not the best video taker though.
climbing vid - YouTube
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04-05-13, 06:15 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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He is pretty, how big do they get?
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Like any species they vary, usually somewhere from 3 to 5 feet, somewhat heavy bodied (more than peachies or roughnecks). Type in varanus indicus in youtube, theres a guy with a log going down onto his couch from the enclosure with a very large one showing its ability to use its 'semi-prehensile' tail.
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04-05-13, 06:21 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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Like any species they vary, usually somewhere from 3 to 5 feet, somewhat heavy bodied (more than peachies or roughnecks). Type in varanus indicus in youtube, theres a guy with a log going down onto his couch from the enclosure with a very large one showing its ability to use its 'semi-prehensile' tail.
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thats cool, so they need same size enclosure as a sav then huh? how big is he now?
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04-05-13, 06:33 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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thats cool, so they need same size enclosure as a sav then huh? how big is he now?
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No, I think they need something like larger. It depends on the size, but if its on the larger end I would say like....8x8x6 or something. Not sure exactly what the plan is yet, my new house has a green house and a nice large room to the side (like an indoor patio, Idk what they are actually called) . I'm going to check temps and see if they will work for the warmer months. If not he will need to be housed in my bedroom or the basement.
http://photos.listhub.net/CTMLS/G626...0120905T202820
That room on the left side maybe be where his new enclosure goes.
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04-05-13, 06:44 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
very cool.. you could always install lights and heat in that patio area so you could house him out there you know. it wouldn't be too hard. he would love it too.
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04-05-13, 06:54 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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very cool.. you could always install lights and heat in that patio area so you could house him out there you know. it wouldn't be too hard. he would love it too.
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The problem is that it gets really cold in the winter. I'd rather just build a very large patio cage inside the patio. Easier for substrate reasons, heating, and I will have usable patio space if I want to add others (or sit in the room and watch him :P)
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04-05-13, 07:57 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
That's cool..
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04-06-13, 01:49 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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Well, from what I can see even though hes usually pretty muddy, he does fit the description for juxtindicus with regards to tail/neck patterning, the only thing is his throat is not white, its a bit peachy. No blue whatsoever, and the yellows are not deep yellow, more of an off white. Heres one more vid I took, not the best video taker though.
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Ive dropped someone a pm for you bud who will know for sure... given he keeps juxti LOL
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04-06-13, 06:55 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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Ive dropped someone a pm for you bud who will know for sure... given he keeps juxti LOL
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Well that was nice of you. Thank you lol The attached pic is a bit more clear than the videos. Its not my picture (I'm still wondering how he managed to get it to sit on his hand, when I open the cage for any reason he turns into a ninja...or rambo) but it is the exact animal.
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04-06-13, 11:44 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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Well that was nice of you. Thank you lol The attached pic is a bit more clear than the videos. Its not my picture (I'm still wondering how he managed to get it to sit on his hand, when I open the cage for any reason he turns into a ninja...or rambo) but it is the exact animal.
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do you work with him with tong feeding and getting him "used" to you presence? like opening the cage and just laying your hand in there for about 5-10 mins letting him see your not a threat? he will get better just takes some time.
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04-06-13, 12:22 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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do you work with him with tong feeding and getting him "used" to you presence? like opening the cage and just laying your hand in there for about 5-10 mins letting him see your not a threat? he will get better just takes some time.
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I'm not planning on laying my hand in his cage. He won't take from the tongs usually. He'll figure it out eventually that I'm not a thread, he will associate me/opening the cage/tongs with him getting dinner and chill out a bit. As for holding him, I don't care if he never allows it or I would have gotten a dog. Hes a tree species, will take much more work than a bosc and probably never reach the same level anyways.
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04-06-13, 01:48 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
well if your afraid of being bit lol you can put a glove on when you lay your hand in the cage... eventually he will take from the tongs though you should try the tong feeding. also do you want him to associate every time you open the cage to be feeding time? this can make them a little more aggressive IMO because they think you are always going to feed them and they can snap at you. he should associate the *tongs* with feeding not you opening the door.
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04-06-13, 02:13 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
No I just don't want to sit on my floor with my hand in his cage while it looses all its humidity and heat. His windows are 2 feet by 1.5 and he has 2 o them. My computer desk is directly infront of his windows so he sits and watches me all day, he will figure it out hes pretty smart. As for getting bit, anyone with a brain should be afraid of getting bit....by a monitor who will possibly bite. So if he was a biter, I would absolutely be afraid of getting bit. However he doesn't bite, he just hisses and makes a run for it, not even tail whips. And it will still hurt very bad, and probably draw blood, even with a glove. This species is DESIGNED to eat all sorts of mollusks and crush hard shells. He has yet to snap, and thats not what I'm worried about. I don't need to hold him, and I don't need a big lizard that sits on my lap and answers when I call its name. If I can leave him in his cage untouched, happy as can be, healthy as can be, and watch him through the glass, mission accomplished. Maybe he will tame down with age as he becomes more accustomed to routine , since they are very well at recognizing/practicing routine, even in the wild. And maybe he wont become tame, don't know, don't care.
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04-06-13, 02:30 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
lol ok.. that works, i like to pet mine though lol.. he still hisses and backs away
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04-07-13, 02:31 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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No I just don't want to sit on my floor with my hand in his cage while it looses all its humidity and heat. His windows are 2 feet by 1.5 and he has 2 o them. My computer desk is directly infront of his windows so he sits and watches me all day, he will figure it out hes pretty smart. As for getting bit, anyone with a brain should be afraid of getting bit....by a monitor who will possibly bite. So if he was a biter, I would absolutely be afraid of getting bit. However he doesn't bite, he just hisses and makes a run for it, not even tail whips. And it will still hurt very bad, and probably draw blood, even with a glove. This species is DESIGNED to eat all sorts of mollusks and crush hard shells. He has yet to snap, and thats not what I'm worried about. I don't need to hold him, and I don't need a big lizard that sits on my lap and answers when I call its name. If I can leave him in his cage untouched, happy as can be, healthy as can be, and watch him through the glass, mission accomplished. Maybe he will tame down with age as he becomes more accustomed to routine , since they are very well at recognizing/practicing routine, even in the wild. And maybe he wont become tame, don't know, don't care.
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Good answer. its a mangrove there bud... Hes not sure what type though LMFAO
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