monitor has gas? - Page 2

infernalis · 02-14-13, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by varanus1

Well im not sure whats causing the bloating but i would remove the craw fish
and squid as thats not a diet they eat in nature

No, it's not..

who's willing to feed Beardies, skinks and Ackies to their monitor?

I would drop the squid for sure, but I know a lot of people feeding crayfish to monitors with no problems whatsoever.

varanus1 · 02-14-13, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

No, it's not..

who's willing to feed Beardies, skinks and Ackies to their monitor?

I would drop the squid for sure, but I know a lot of people feeding crayfish to monitors with no problems whatsoever.

Im sure many feed many different items to monitors but currently many may never see those affects with feeding several other prey as its sad but true not many these days keep they pets long term as things change in their life or other its rare to see a keeper keeping most pets mainly monitors as they require the most work over a few years so we may never know whats the affect of other prey items. but with anything heat comes into play.long term we don't know how long to affect a monitor and how many will take a dead reptile to a vet to see what was the cause. Rodents has a proven track record to be best over all.

infernalis · 02-14-13, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by varanus1

Rodents has a proven track record to be best over all.

Agreed, I preach that every day.

"Keep them hot, and you can feed them nails" - care to guess who said that?

varanus1 · 02-14-13, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

Agreed, I preach that every day.

"Keep them hot, and you can feed them nails" - care to guess who said that?

i think some of us know who

murrindindi · 02-14-13, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by varanus1

Rodents has a proven track record to be best over all.

Hi, I think rodents are an excellent food for many (most?) species, but not the only "best" for all.

infernalis · 02-14-13, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by murrindindi

Hi, I think rodents are an excellent food for many (most?) species, but not the only "best" for all.

I'd like to see a V. kingorum eat a mouse.

murrindindi · 02-14-13, 01:01 PM

Sorry, I thought this was a Savannah monitor. Either way, it really doesn`t matter what they feed on in nature in the sense that just because they might not find a particular prey item in the wild they won`t or shouldn`t take it in captivity?
Crawfish are an excellent food to offer, the squid shouldn`t cause problems either, can you give an idea of the % of the items you`re currently feeding?
As far as the bloating, perhaps there`s a slight blockage somewhere, how long has it been this way? Photos might still help a little.

concinnusman · 02-14-13, 01:25 PM

I use this on newborn CB snakes with their first meals and also to adults that are having bloating or vomiting problems. Also a good idea to use it following oral antibiotic therapy or deworming. It's not something you need to give them regularly though.

PetAG Bird Bene-Bac Bird & Reptile Probiotic Gel, 15g Syringe - Pet Supplies - Bird Supplies - Health Care

Might help your monitor with the bloating. If he's not foraging outside in the dirt for worms and whatnot he might just be a bit deficient on beneficial gut bacteria.

I know this is a controversial thing and a lot of people question the science behind it but I've had positive results using it. I have seen it cure chronic vomiting and bloating.

varanus1 · 02-14-13, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by concinnusman

I use this on newborn CB snakes with their first meals and also to adults that are having bloating or vomiting problems. Also a good idea to use it following oral antibiotic therapy or deworming. It's not something you need to give them regularly though.

PetAG Bird Bene-Bac Bird & Reptile Probiotic Gel, 15g Syringe - Pet Supplies - Bird Supplies - Health Care

Might help your monitor with the bloating. If he's not foraging outside in the dirt for worms and whatnot he might just be a bit deficient on beneficial gut bacteria.

I would be more concerned to fix the problem than offering meds and un do stress.

blindfireak40 · 02-14-13, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by varanus1

I would be more concerned to fix the problem than offering meds and un do stress.

That's a probiotic gel; Concinnus is suggesting that the monitor's intestinal flora is at a subpar level. IF that is the issue, then the gel would be fixing the problem rather than simply treating symptoms

varanus1 · 02-14-13, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blindfireak40

That's a probiotic gel; Concinnus is suggesting that the monitor's intestinal flora is at a subpar level. IF that is the issue, then the gel would be fixing the problem rather than simply treating symptoms

Why that can be true and be right i always have to question why is it at subpar levels if it is the case

concinnusman · 02-14-13, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by varanus1

i always have to question why is it at subpar levels if it is the case

It isn't subpar necessarily. It indeed can be something you're feeding him that's the problem. Human beings lack a digestive enzyme for fully breaking down a type of starch in beans. This results in a sugar making it all the way to the lower intestine where it gets consumed by bacteria there, which produces gas. Think of this stuff as "beano" for reptiles

KORBIN5895 · 02-14-13, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blindfireak40

That's a probiotic gel; Concinnus is suggesting that the monitor's intestinal flora is at a subpar level. IF that is the issue, then the gel would be fixing the problem rather than simply treating symptoms

That isn't the issue Sean. That is a symptom of something else being wrong. If you fix the problem the monitor should fix itself. If the monitor isn't fixing itself then there is an issue that needs corrected.

concinnusman · 02-14-13, 03:24 PM

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That is a symptom of something else being wrong.

It's simply a symptom of poor digestion. What is causing it is anyone's guess but I would suspect it's something specific that he's eating. In any case the probiotic might help but so could simply eliminating the food item that is causing it. If he has this problem no matter what he eats then you need to figure out why.

varanus1 · 02-14-13, 01:27 PM

Ive always fed rodents and insects to all my monitors for 15+ years of keeping and breeding. If rodents and insects work why change it and offer other prey is my thought.