Dangerous pet products that should never be used for pets - Page 2

Ourobouros · 06-14-13, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Evolieno

Not to mention, new reptile owners don't always realize the adhesive used to stick them to the inside of the enclosure doesn't stick well to glass, etc. Especially when the reptile requires humidity. However, it does unfortunately stick TOO well to a reptile's scales. I found that out the hard way with my first snake years ago and all too common. It can be a pain To remove from the reptile, and depending on how severe the damage is, aid in or cause scale rot. I was so scared when this happened to me, and it had never crossed my mind when I purchased them back then! I felt so terrible that I had to learn this the hard way and seemed like even after all the research I had done for my snake, that I was a terrible owner.

Anything stuck to the glass in my tank I have to pry off with my nails very carefully under hot water over the course of several minutes..... I thoroughly washed and picked the tank clean and customized it for my snake and I have no issues with anything brought up about glass tanks. Granted humidity suffers from the heat bulb but periodic misting and a plastic cover over the other half of the screen lid fixes that.

I definitely plan on a nicer, acrylic tank that I can spoil my snake with but while she's a baby the tank I have is great. I watch the humidity and temps like a hawk and always will. The best thing for any pet owner is vigilance because even if one makes a mistake, knowing is half the battle. The other half is taking responsibility to address any problems.

snake man12 · 08-06-12, 07:49 PM

Glass Aquariums
They don't hold any humidity or temperature, they can be escaped easily unless the proper clips are purchased.
Also cleaning is a problem because of the weight of the glass and they are very fragile. Also they offer almost no security for the reptile.
They are mad for fish not reptiles, Don't use them, either buy a tub or make a custom enclosure.

casey15 · 08-06-12, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by snake man12

Glass Aquariums
They don't hold any humidity or temperature, they can be escaped easily unless the proper clips are purchased.
Also cleaning is a problem because of the weight of the glass and they are very fragile. Also they offer almost no security for the reptile.
They are mad for fish not reptiles, Don't use them, either buy a tub or make a custom enclosure.

Right on, and normally they are what new owners use to house their animals in, without knowing the need for temps/humidity

BarelyBreathing · 08-06-12, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

That's fine.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by snake man12

Glass Aquariums
They don't hold any humidity or temperature, they can be escaped easily unless the proper clips are purchased.
Also cleaning is a problem because of the weight of the glass and they are very fragile. Also they offer almost no security for the reptile.
They are mad for fish not reptiles, Don't use them, either buy a tub or make a custom enclosure.

I'm in the center of this one. While I agree that they are horrible for most species, some animals do alright in them when set up properly.

infernalis · 08-06-12, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BarelyBreathing

I'm in the center of this one. While I agree that they are horrible for most species, some animals do alright in them when set up properly.

Glass aquariums are perfectly fine for things like garter snakes, milk snakes, corns, Anoles, geckos, and such.

I have a dedicated reptile room, so "traffic" in front of the cages is minimal, and I use plywood to make tops for escape artists.

The whole room is climate controlled, so holding in heat is no issue here, and they do look good when set up on shelves.

**Pareeeee** · 08-10-12, 07:36 PM

This is a great thread!! I e-mailed some people that were selling heat rocks in the classifieds and told them they should throw them away because they are very dangerous. I never got a response...

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Originally Posted by snake man12

Glass Aquariums
They don't hold any humidity or temperature, they can be escaped easily unless the proper clips are purchased.
Also cleaning is a problem because of the weight of the glass and they are very fragile. Also they offer almost no security for the reptile.
They are mad for fish not reptiles, Don't use them, either buy a tub or make a custom enclosure.

This I disagree with - it is all relative to the type of reptile you are trying to keep. I would not keep a Ball Python in a glass terrarium, for instance, since they are shy snakes with high humidity requirements.

My Rosy Boa, Boaz, does well in his glass terrarium since he is a desert-dweller who needs a dry environment. All you have to do is black out the sides and back with bristol board, or if you feel like something more permanent, paint them. I also have one of those metal tops that clicks into place around the plastic edging on the top of the tank. It doesn't budge...not with a *small* snake like Boaz, anyway.

Wildside · 08-13-12, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pareeeee

This is a great thread!! I e-mailed some people that were selling heat rocks in the classifieds and told them they should throw them away because they are very dangerous. I never got a response...

This I disagree with - it is all relative to the type of reptile you are trying to keep. I would not keep a Ball Python in a glass terrarium, for instance, since they are shy snakes with high humidity requirements.

My Rosy Boa, Boaz, does well in his glass terrarium since he is a desert-dweller who needs a dry environment. All you have to do is black out the sides and back with bristol board, or if you feel like something more permanent, paint them. I also have one of those metal tops that clicks into place around the plastic edging on the top of the tank. It doesn't budge...not with a *small* snake like Boaz, anyway.

I don't think glass aquariums should be in this thread at all. While we can all agree that they're not "the best" for every reptile they certainly are not "Dangerous"

casey15 · 08-06-12, 07:49 PM

Heat Caves- same problem as heat rocks

snake man12 · 08-06-12, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by casey15

Heat Caves- same problem as heat rocks

I wouldn't even look at one...

StudentoReptile · 08-06-12, 07:55 PM

I wouldn't categorize glass tanks as "dangerous products" per say. They're just not as suited for some herp species as others. Kinda like you wouldn't use a humidifier on a bearded dragon or a 10.0 UVB bulb on an amphibian, or use sand for frogs or damp moss for Uromastyx, etc. None of those products are "bad;" they just have their specific functions for specific species.

I believe this thread is devoted to products that are just universally bad or hazardous across the board for any or all herps.

shaunyboy · 08-06-12, 08:42 PM

pine tree sap or any type of pine oil etc can be harmfull to carpet pythons

also i have personally found and read on,morelia dedicated forums,that aspen can sometimes cause mild respiritory issues,folk think it may be down to,the high dust content in the aspen,available here in Scotland

cheers shaun

P.S.sorry if this was a lizard only related thread

infernalis · 08-06-12, 07:57 PM

wow this thread is picking up some steam.

Great posts everyone.

snake man12 · 08-06-12, 08:03 PM

I would say they are dangerous to most reptile species save for a few exceptions. They should never be used for snakes or lizards with very specific requirements. My 0.02

infernalis · 08-06-12, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by snake man12

I would say they are dangerous to most reptile species save for a few exceptions. They should never be used for snakes or lizards with very specific requirements. My 0.02

Now that much I agree on.

And not everyone has a heated reptile room to put them in.

I specialize in Thamnophis (Rare Garter snakes) that can live from central America to Alaska, so the tanks work fine for them.

However, when I see tropical/rainforest animals in fish tanks, it infuriates me.

snake man12 · 08-06-12, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

Now that much I agree on.

And not everyone has a heated reptile room to put them in.

I specialize in Thamnophis (Rare Garter snakes) that can live from central America to Alaska, so the tanks work fine for them.

However, when I see tropical/rainforest animals in fish tanks, it infuriates me.

That was what I was try to get at, thanks