BP noob, general questions - Page 4

mykee · 07-10-12, 09:10 AM

True. But I have 37 more clutches to go.

**Aaron_S** · 07-10-12, 09:16 AM

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True. But I have 37 more clutches to go.

Yeah...yeah...yeah...

We know...

I've got about another 3 out of my 13.

franks · 07-11-12, 09:33 AM

Thanks for all of the advice guys. I am preparing enclosures now. I am reading in some places that babies should not be kept in large enclosures. Is there any merit to this. In the wild they dont start in small enclosure

**Aaron_S** · 07-11-12, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by franks

Thanks for all of the advice guys. I am preparing enclosures now. I am reading in some places that babies should not be kept in large enclosures. Is there any merit to this. In the wild they dont start in small enclosure

There is merit to it. Ball pythons love to be cramped. They usually stop eating otherwise. In the wild ball pythons live in cramped burrows. It makes them feel secure.

zamora · 07-11-12, 10:00 AM

Hello Franks, I'm new here also. Not new to owning snakes though. I'm interested in the enclosure you are building. Maybe post some pictures for us somewhere?

I have been lucky enough to hatch my first ever clutch of Beepers this year and I had the 'odds gods' on my side. My story...I won a Vanilla male several years ago at the Daytona expo, then hunted and hunted until I found a really special Vanilla female that was totally unrelated to him (actually difficult to do). Grew them up slowly and then when she was big enough AND old enough, I put them together. I got four eggs from this pairing and this is the results: one normal (reduced pattern female), one vanilla (reduced pattern female) and two super vanillas (both reduced patterns and one is really wacky). I have not advertised them for sale yet but hopefully will realize some decent money from them when I do.

Good luck on your endeavors and let us know if you need any assistance!

Oh, guess I should have said that I'm actually a boa person masquerading in the Ball Python and Cornsnake world...LOL

dehlol · 07-11-12, 02:23 PM

Build yourself a snake rack, save yourself a little bit of money on the "enclosure" aspect, and end up with more space to put hatchlings/future animals. If you want an animal to display and look at, pick anything other than a BP, something that's actually visually appealing and interesting to look at.

LadyLockeout · 07-11-12, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dehlol

Build yourself a snake rack, save yourself a little bit of money on the "enclosure" aspect, and end up with more space to put hatchlings/future animals. If you want an animal to display and look at, pick anything other than a BP, something that's actually visually appealing and interesting to look at.

You don't find BP's visually appealing?

alessia55 · 07-11-12, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dehlol

Build yourself a snake rack, save yourself a little bit of money on the "enclosure" aspect, and end up with more space to put hatchlings/future animals. If you want an animal to display and look at, pick anything other than a BP, something that's actually visually appealing and interesting to look at.

Whether or not ball pythons are visually appealing is entirely subjective. Personally, I'm not interested in keeping much of any other snakes other than ball pythons. When I go to expos, ball pythons are the only wants that REALLY catch my attention; all the morphs, the body structure, all of it ties into a package that greatly appeals to my eyes. I find them THE most visually appealing in the snake world. So that's entirely subjective

Whether or not they are interesting to look at is debatable LOL! (ok ok, they don't move a lot

)

To the OP, if you want a snake that will be VISIBLE to see and display, then a ball python is not the right snake to choose for that. Ball pythons won't hang out on a branch the way arboreal snakes will.

franks · 07-11-12, 05:50 PM

- From what I understand, they really are only active at night? I am not looking for the perfect display animal, I have a few other snakes (including a rosy boa whos "displayness" cant be topped) and a few lizards. I just want to create an ideal enviornement for the royals and I am a little hesitant to adopting the LAM method of plastic storage boxes. Its hard to imagine this set-up being ideal for the snake.

alessia55 · 07-11-12, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by franks

- From what I understand, they really are only active at night? I am not looking for the perfect display animal, I have a few other snakes (including a rosy boa whos "displayness" cant be topped) and a few lizards. I just want to create an ideal enviornement for the royals and I am a little hesitant to adopting the LAM method of plastic storage boxes. Its hard to imagine this set-up being ideal for the snake.

I have my ball pythons in beautiful boaphile cages with an "ideal" environment (temps, humidity, etc where they should be).

franks · 07-11-12, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by zamora

Hello Franks, I'm new here also. Not new to owning snakes though. I'm interested in the enclosure you are building. Maybe post some pictures for us somewhere?

Here is one I just finished for my rosy boa. It has built in heat under the ground on the left hand side.

alessia55 · 07-11-12, 06:00 PM

Love all those natural rocks in there... looks great. Is the big grey rock thing a hide on that other side? and where's the water?

franks · 07-11-12, 07:53 PM

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Love all those natural rocks in there... looks great. Is the big grey rock thing a hide on that other side? and where's the water?

There is a hide behind the big grey rock, and another cool side hide in the form of a cork round log burried in the substrate. I like your duel set up alot. I think i am going to make something similiar to yours to fit under my 125 tank. What are your dimensions?

franks · 07-11-12, 07:56 PM

The water is out. She gets water 2-3 days a week

DeesBalls · 07-11-12, 09:28 PM

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I just want to create an ideal enviornement for the royals and I am a little hesitant to adopting the LAM method of plastic storage boxes. Its hard to imagine this set-up being ideal for the snake.

I personally find this statement really contradicting...

you say you want to create an idea enviorment for your snake, but yet are hesitant to use racks/tubs... but tubs give you that, for very very cheap... trust me on this, i was the same way as you, when i had my 1st few snakes, i was appauled at the idea of tubs, and racks. but after i got up to six snakes, i ran out of room for tanks, and the cords from the heat lights were redicoulus. so i made my 1st rack for only about $75 plus heat tape ($25) it stored all the snakes nicly, and they had their warm spot, cool spot, humidity, and ambient where it needed to be.

after the racks, i got tired of not being able to see them, so i built my own cages, they work nice but again, very bulky, still love my racks!!

the point is this... you need to use what is right for you... Honestly, i kept a Brazilian Rainbow Boa in a 10 gal tank... those of which need much more picky and "harder" husbandry than a BP. So it can be done...

you can either:

use what Alessia is using ( couple hundered bucks a piece for a cage )
visual cage like you rosy boa ( $50 or so bucks plus decor)
racks with tubs ( $100 or so, and can store multiple snakes)

This is a pic of my 1st rack i built... it had 2 BP, 3 corn, 1 brb

2 of my custom built ones (corn on top, RTB on bottom) (( no hides because they both are ALWAYS burrowing))

new hatchling rack

my current BP cage,

i guess my point is, use what you like, just make sure the snakes best interest is 1st...