Burm/ball hybrid

[Gregg M]

Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

But when I want a pure locality BCI, or alterna, or whatever, I don't want a mutt.

And they are easily obtainable. Many anti hybrid people try to play the "muddy blood" card all the time but have yet to prove their case. I too love my pure stuff and like you, if I am looking for something particular, I do not want a mutt. But if I saw a really crazy hybrid that I liked, I would buy it in a second.

Here is a male wild caught gaboon rhino viper hybrid.



And here are some F2 gaboon rhino viper hybrids. Yes the hybrids are very fertile.

[StudentoReptile]

Originally Posted by Gregg M

And they are easily obtainable.

For most cases, this is probably true. But I'm sure there are some cases where the species/subspecies/locality in question is not that easy to come by, yet hybrids are made anyway.

Again, like you, I don't think its fair to tell anyone not to do it anymore than its fair to tell someone its not okay to linebreed, or feed live in a separate container, or whatever. As with anything else in this hobby, there's people who obviously create hybrids responsibly and accurately represent them. And there's people who don't care and just toss things together (so to speak, I know there's a little more to making a hybrid than that).
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One of my personal pet peeves (100% my own opinion, and not a judgment on what should or shouldn't be done) is ugly hybrids. I know you can never really tell what the offspring is going to look like, but you can kinda guess. And if it comes out and grows up to be butt-ugly, for the love of crap, don't produce anymore!

[stevenrudge]

Originally Posted by Gregg M

And they are easily obtainable. Many anti hybrid people try to play the "muddy blood" card all the time but have yet to prove their case. I too love my pure stuff and like you, if I am looking for something particular, I do not want a mutt. But if I saw a really crazy hybrid that I liked, I would buy it in a second.

Here is a male wild caught gaboon rhino viper hybrid.



And here are some F2 gaboon rhino viper hybrids. Yes the hybrids are very fertile.

You could say that your both right,my main objection is that the way legislation is moving the future free movement of reps ( import/ export/ overland)is looking doubtful at best,and 10 -15 years in the future we do not want to be in the position of not being able to obtain pure true lines of captive species and not being able to obtain replacement W/C stock,in the way that the various Locals have come into play,and your point about natural hybridization,yes of course this happens but its not very common and these hybrids are not going to live in a confined gene poll are they,in their wild state their genes would naturally disperse back or might as you say from a new spp or local,this is un-proven,l like your response to certain problem morphs these are un-ethical and posse a bigger problem