S.b. 310

[hellosugaree]

Originally Posted by exwizard

All the long posts having been said, the govt will not stop until all herps are banned. I don't trust the govt to stop there. They will keep marching on.

This is paranoid extremist talk. These laws were not thought of solely as a way for some evil villain to stick it to his serfs. Your geckos, bearded dragons, and most of your snakes are safe. Requiring someone to jump through a few hoops to keep a 20 foot snake or an alligator is not particularly unreasonable. Someone didn't just sit down one day and say: "Hmm... what can I take away from people for no reason." When people start releasing their geckos and bearded dragons and they start eating alligators in Florida, then you might have to worry about them too. What do you think is going to happen? They made a permit required to keep a few species of giant constrictors, only after they are OVER 12 FEET, and now they are going to say: "OK we got the giant snakes now let's take away geckos because taking away pets from people for no reason is fun."

[StudentoReptile]

Originally Posted by hellosugaree

This is paranoid extremist talk. These laws were not thought of solely as a way for some evil villain to stick it to his serfs. Your geckos, bearded dragons, and most of your snakes are safe. Requiring someone to jump through a few hoops to keep a 20 foot snake or an alligator is not particularly unreasonable. Someone didn't just sit down one day and say: "Hmm... what can I take away from people for no reason." When people start releasing their geckos and bearded dragons and they start eating alligators in Florida, then you might have to worry about them too. What do you think is going to happen? They made a permit required to keep a few species of giant constrictors, only after they are OVER 12 FEET, and now they are going to say: "OK we got the giant snakes now let's take away geckos because taking away pets from people for no reason is fun."

I would strongly suggest you read this:
This what it has come to… « Student of the Reptile

Then listen to the following podcasts:

The Constrictor Ban 01/25 by Herpin Time | Blog Talk Radio

Reptile Radio Home - Listen to Reptile Radio - 100's of Archived shows available for download

Then go straight to the horse's arse...er...I mean, mouth. Wayne Pacelle, CEO of HSUS:

HSUS podcasts - Humane Talk with Tracie Hotchner : The Humane Society of the United States

Wayne's blog - Wayne Pacelle: A Humane Nation

Look at some of the older posts. HSUS is totally against the ownership of ALL exotic animals, and has been for decades.

Then check out: HumaneWatch to see what they're spending their money on.

[hellosugaree]

Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

I would strongly suggest you read this:
This what it has come to… « Student of the Reptile

Then listen to the following podcasts:

The Constrictor Ban 01/25 by Herpin Time | Blog Talk Radio

Reptile Radio Home - Listen to Reptile Radio - 100's of Archived shows available for download

Then go straight to the horse's arse...er...I mean, mouth. Wayne Pacelle, CEO of HSUS:

HSUS podcasts - Humane Talk with Tracie Hotchner : The Humane Society of the United States

Wayne's blog - Wayne Pacelle: A Humane Nation

Look at some of the older posts. HSUS is totally against the ownership of ALL exotic animals, and has been for decades.

Then check out: HumaneWatch to see what they're spending their money on.

He said nothing about the human society... He said government... Most of this addresses the humane society.

[StudentoReptile]

Originally Posted by hellosugaree

He said nothing about the human society... He said government... Most of this addresses the humane society.

You apparently did not read it entirely, nor did you listen to any of the podcasts. Andrew Wyatt specifically mentions the HSUS, along with the Defenders of Wildlife and the Nature's Conservancy. If you listen to later Herpin' Time episodes, Andrew Wyatt speaks about the impending SB 310 and HSUS's involvement.
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They tried to pass that H.R. 669 bill back in 2009 that banned all non-native species to the U.S. Get that? That's every animal that is not native to America. What do you think that entails?

They are hitting the easy targets first: big snakes, big cats, large dog breeds, etc. Do you honestly think they're just going to stop at those? Once they've outplayed the "these animals are simply too dangerous for the average person to keep" card, then they'll fall back on: "these animals just have too many specific care requirements for the average person. Most people are not prepared to keep these animals properly, and as a result, too many end up unwanted and dumped off in shelters that are already over-crowded and under-staffed. Animal rescues and shelters have enough on their plate dealing with all the neglected dogs and cats left on their doorstep. They don't have the knowledge, space or man-power to deal with all the unwanted exotic animals that are a result of irresponsible impulse purchases." After all the big, dangerous reptiles are regulated, then they'll probably play up the Salmonella angle again, and try to take away everything else.

This is not just a reptile thing, even though its a little more close to home for most of us and quite honestly, reptiles are an easy target because the general public already has a negative view of them. But this also involves other exotics like sugar gliders, chinchillas, hedgehogs, etc.

Maybe it's "just for fun" as you put it, but it is a campaign against the exotic animal industry as a whole, reptiles included. For whatever reasons they seem to so fervently believe in, these organizations do not want people owning pets. And they will do everything in their power to accomplish that goal.