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05-20-12, 10:35 PM
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Harley update
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05-20-12, 10:45 PM
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Re: Harley update
and some videos
to come..
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05-20-12, 10:55 PM
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Re: Harley update
k cant get video to work.. i tried lol
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05-20-12, 10:59 PM
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Re: Harley update
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05-20-12, 11:02 PM
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Re: Harley update
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05-20-12, 11:04 PM
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Re: Harley update
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05-20-12, 11:17 PM
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Re: Harley update
I don't know what it is, but something looks "not right" about your monitor. Consider a vet check with a varanid specialist.
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05-20-12, 11:28 PM
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Re: Harley update
what do you mean Not right? could you be more specific?
i dont mean to sound like im not listening to your advice...but it seems silly to take him to the vet when he is doing so well. and has GREATLY improved from when we got him.. maybe if you could tell me what you think is wrong with him id take that comment more to heart??? what doesnt look right to you? sorry.. but i just think it would be strange to walk into the vet which is very expensive and say some girl on a forum said she thinks there is something wrong but she doesnt know what...from pics she saw.. lol.. if you know what i mean...
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05-20-12, 11:42 PM
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Re: Harley update
I can't put my finger on it, that's why I said "I don't know what it is". There just seems to be an "off" look about him, specifically in the third, fourth, and seventh photos. Did he develop abnormally? Was he injured a while ago? His his humidity up to par? There's just something that strikes me as off. I really hope it's nothing.
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05-21-12, 12:07 AM
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Re: Harley update
I personally think he just looks overweight, but I could be wrong. I'm only basing this observation off of pictures that others have posted of seemingly healthy Savs.
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05-21-12, 12:56 AM
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Re: Harley update
everything temps humidity etc is good. basking spot is right. humidity is right, weve changed and altered everything as suggested to get everything to be as suggested..he is looking MUCH better then he did when we got him... as stated before when we got him he was on a diet of Tuna and scrambled egg. he now eats snails, worms, bugs, slugs, crickets, silkworms, etc etc... took us a while but he has taken to the change well.. he was originally kept in an exo terra... we built the new cage, he originally had bark mulch.. he now has soil sand peatmoss mix...he has a water tub etc... we bought the book wayne suggested... we have read it.. i cant tell you if he developed properly as i only got him a while ago... he looks like every other sav ive ever seen. he is missing one nail on his foot and looks like the tip of his tail unless it is supposed to be stubby like that.. could be that in the top pics he was eating snails, so shaking his head and bobbing etc chewing while i was snapping pics... maybe the angle? I have posted several pics of him before on here and no one has ever suggested he looked like something was wrong with him... yes i agree he is overweight.. probably because of his previous husbandry... conditions and diet etc.. likely wasnt kept at correct humidity in there or temp... to bad your not closer.. you could come check him out for yourself.. lol...maybe hands on would give a truer impression? anyone else see anything... and HOW do ni bring his weight down to a healthy level... as he has been fat since we got him.. no doubt from the tuna... and im guessing the salt from that would have done something to him.. anyone know any good sav drs in bc canada?
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05-21-12, 03:07 AM
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Re: Harley update
I can't tell if theres, anything wrong, I'm not experienced with Monitors at all. But I am experienced in Progression, and that lizard has come quite a way in a short time, so I commend you on that
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05-21-12, 07:28 AM
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Re: Harley update
I could be wrong,but like BarelyBreathing said he looks overweight,if your temps are right,as in hot enough basking spot and cool end low eighties including in the substrate,you might have to adjust feeding.
If the cage is large enough,the monitor should be working off the extra weight.Though it might seem harmless certain activities for a monitor like walking on a leash might have counterproductive results-stress.Healthy monitors can handle stress-though the condition of the monitor has improved it's still compromised.Properly maintained monitors when allowed to get to full operating function are a handful,recover from injury,and stress.Not many have seen monitors in this state-Wayne is, with his baby Sav's,imagine them with the energy he describes at two feet long.
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05-21-12, 08:05 AM
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Re: Harley update
Considering that this lizard needs the exercises, I would have to say the walks will do good, as long as he's not out of his enclosure for more than a couple hours at at a time, with the exception of 80 degree plus days, then by all means, the exploration and foraging is stimulating.
One of the things about Chomper that caught the attention of "the right people" was the fact that he had so much freedom.
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05-21-12, 08:20 AM
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Re: Harley update
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Originally Posted by BlueButterfly
he looks like every other sav ive ever seen
and HOW do ni bring his weight down to a healthy level... as he has been fat since we got him.. no doubt from the tuna... and im guessing the salt from that would have done something to him.. anyone know any good sav drs in bc canada?
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Not exactly a good thing when far too many are overweight.
I would say just keep doing what you're doing, maybe boost temps a bit to aid digestion and give him a little metabolism boost.
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