The one and ONLY python BAN thread (HR511)

[jaleely]

So, let's get back to the animals. I think they should just ban the importing. There is no need at all whatsoever to have any of these animals being taken from the wild when there are so many in the pet trade. They should trap the ones in florida, and adopt them out to all these supposedly responsible snake owners who want them (not the ones who clearly let them escape already) and leave it at that. There shouldn't be any imports at *all*.

Most of the people who even want one right now only want it because it could be banned, and they don't want to not be able to have it.

I hate the government pushing laws and rules, and i hate the minority being able to be louder and push everyone else around, like this. But in this case and others, i think the snakes will be better off NOT being in some dinky petshop to have some inbred hick come over and buy it, starve it, and have it eat their stupid ibred baby and then escape.
Also breeders whine about having new genetics in their lines. If they thought more about the health of the animals, instead of trying to make a name for themseleves, or making money, they wouldn't be breeding mother's to babies, and babies back to siblings, and making a mess of everything anyway.

No imports. And yeah, I think people should have to get a microchip &/or a license for a pet that could be dangerous if not taken care of. *Because* the majority of the people, out of the minority that have snakes....are stupid. Very, very irrisponsible and stupid.

And, when it comes to legsislation picking on something I own, i fight it if i feel like it. I don't need a pep rally. Firstly, if i want to cross a border and move somewhere, I also own guns so they better be prepared to try to take my snake from me. Secondly, i'd be perfectly happy having only the people who currently own large snakes be the only ones. They don't need to keep being imported, since people have already proven they can't take care of their responsibility. Too bad so sad for the rest of us, but it's always the stupid kid who ruins the party for the rest.

Do you really think it's fair to keep selling a snake to just anyone, when it's usually that snake that is mistreated? Just for the right to let anyone have one? Not everyone SHOULD have one. I don't know how else they can protect the snakes from all the morons.


Randyrhodes, you put it better than i did *lol*

[RandyRhoads]

Originally Posted by jaleely

Too bad so sad for the rest of us, but it's always the stupid kid who ruins the party for the rest.

No offense, but kind of like gun control because of statements like this one below?

Originally Posted by jaleely

Firstly, if i want to cross a border and move somewhere, I also own guns so they better be prepared to try to take my snake from me.

That's way too far. No need to cross the border guns blazing for your snake, trust me it wont end well, lol.

[stephanbakir]

Originally Posted by jaleely

So, let's get back to the animals. I think they should just ban the importing. There is no need at all whatsoever to have any of these animals being taken from the wild when there are so many in the pet trade. They should trap the ones in florida, and adopt them out to all these supposedly responsible snake owners who want them (not the ones who clearly let them escape already) and leave it at that. There shouldn't be any imports at *all*.

Most of the people who even want one right now only want it because it could be banned, and they don't want to not be able to have it.

I hate the government pushing laws and rules, and i hate the minority being able to be louder and push everyone else around, like this. But in this case and others, i think the snakes will be better off NOT being in some dinky petshop to have some inbred hick come over and buy it, starve it, and have it eat their stupid ibred baby and then escape.
Also breeders whine about having new genetics in their lines. If they thought more about the health of the animals, instead of trying to make a name for themseleves, or making money, they wouldn't be breeding mother's to babies, and babies back to siblings, and making a mess of everything anyway.

No imports. And yeah, I think people should have to get a microchip &/or a license for a pet that could be dangerous if not taken care of. *Because* the majority of the people, out of the minority that have snakes....are stupid. Very, very irrisponsible and stupid.

And, when it comes to legsislation picking on something I own, i fight it if i feel like it. I don't need a pep rally. Firstly, if i want to cross a border and move somewhere, I also own guns so they better be prepared to try to take my snake from me. Secondly, i'd be perfectly happy having only the people who currently own large snakes be the only ones. They don't need to keep being imported, since people have already proven they can't take care of their responsibility. Too bad so sad for the rest of us, but it's always the stupid kid who ruins the party for the rest.

Do you really think it's fair to keep selling a snake to just anyone, when it's usually that snake that is mistreated? Just for the right to let anyone have one? Not everyone SHOULD have one. I don't know how else they can protect the snakes from all the morons.


Randyrhodes, you put it better than i did *lol*

Firstly, its impossible to eradicate them from the everglades. They simply don't have enough cause to invest that kind of money into the project, even if they did I still believe it to be impossible.

Regarding imports, it SHOULD be legal, but cracked down on. We NEED new blood, and if we don't right now, we will soon enough. New base mutations are not really needed, we could enjoy them from afar.

Even if you trapped all the burms, there is no way you could adopt out that many... it's just too many snakes.

"they wouldn't be breeding mother's to babies, and babies back to siblings, and making a mess of everything anyway." you really dont know much about it do you? You NEED to inbreed to prove out new recessive mutations, and up until a certain point, it doesn't really hurt. That being said, the GOOD breeders aren't idiots and take that into consideration while breeding. You are also always jumping from project to project (some projects take much longer then others) which mixes up the blood.

" Firstly, if i want to cross a border and move somewhere, I also own guns so they better be prepared to try to take my snake from me." That is the wrong image to portray, they already look at us like an aggressive/defensive minority on a power trip... lets try and change that?

"Not everyone SHOULD have one" I agree, what screening process do you propose? remember it needs to be foolproof.