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09-23-11, 06:14 PM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
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but snakes need to eat :C its stupid that theyre killing them just for their skin. And people dont need meat, but snakes do. im a vegetarian lol
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we don't but its the easiest way to get vital proteins and other nutrients. Plus it tastes damn good.
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09-24-11, 05:15 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
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Originally Posted by millertime89
we don't but its the easiest way to get vital proteins and other nutrients. Plus it tastes damn good.
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imo, i get nauseous thinking about eating meat just imagining where its been, but i used to eat meat and it was really good
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09-15-11, 12:24 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
Very true and valid points wayne, however those animals are being killed for food (maybe not the most humane way, and theres no excuse for that) but these pythons are being slaughtered for cosmetic reasons... if you like the look of animal skins then buy replica... the real stuff looks far better on the snakes....
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09-15-11, 02:00 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
as long as wild populations are being monitored it doesn't really bother me TBH, it's an animal product, we all use them.
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09-15-11, 02:00 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
people kill animals for their skin all time. just like elephants for their ivory; it's sad.
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09-15-11, 02:40 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
Couldn't watch it. Won't comment. I don't want to see video on where my steak comes from either.
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09-15-11, 03:33 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
To me it wouldn't be so bad if they were using the meat to for food and not just wasting it. Which they could be doing and the video just doesn't show it. In the one with the Retic i believe they are using the meat. To me if your killing them, but using as much as you can of the animal then it ok. But to do it just for skins or hide is wrong.
Another thing that gets him is how they kill them. In the video with the Bloods the guy hits the one like three times before it stops moving. Even then your not sure if it's dead before the blow air up it's ***. At least in the Retic one they chop the head off quick and fast. Years ago i use to work at a hog processing plant one shot and it was over quick and fast. As humane as you could get and they use 99% of the hog.
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09-15-11, 03:39 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
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Originally Posted by marvelfreak
To me it wouldn't be so bad if they were using the meat to for food and not just wasting it. Which they could be doing and the video just doesn't show it. In the one with the Retic i believe they are using the meat. To me if your killing them, but using as much as you can of the animal then it ok. But to do it just for skins or hide is wrong.
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Pretty much what i meant lol... atleast you can write coherently
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09-15-11, 04:29 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
I'm glad that my family only eats meat from a local farm that my brother works on. We know exactly where our beef comes from.
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09-15-11, 04:53 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
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I'm glad that my family only eats meat from a local farm that my brother works on. We know exactly where our beef comes from.
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You get better beef that way too.
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09-15-11, 08:23 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
Slaughter houses should have more regulations, the animals should have to be kept in a more humane environment and killed in a humane manner and it should be for food only. Killing animals for cosmetic reasons is just wrong in my opinion. Same with animal tesing, as humane as possible and only for reasons involving medications and saving lives and only if completely necessary. Testing cosmetics on animals is just wrong too in my opinion.....I always read labels!!! That's my stand and I couldn't watch the video either, can't stand to see anything treated cruelly.
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09-15-11, 08:37 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
I didn't watch the video yet, but I will give my points on how I feel about the fur/skin industry in general. And this goes for ANY animal...since in some countries they use cats and dogs for furs since it is cheaper.
It doesn't bother me that people are using skin or fur for anything. It doesn't bother me that the meat is wasted in this process. Nor do I really care that they aren't treated 100% humane before being killed or during the killing process. Most of the time these animals are mostly under a year old (younger fur is softer fur) and don't know the feeling of anything other than what they have lived in from the get go.
Now what I don't like is when people take pets, wild animals, or otherwise well treated animals to use for the fur/skin industry. It doesn't sit well for an animal that has known freedom, comfort, ect. to suddenly be thrown into a horrible lifestyle and/or be killed in a horrible manner JUST for the fur/skin.
Now as far as meat animals go I think it is perfectly fine for a animal in the wild, a "pet" (in the case of people keeping cows, chickens and pigs), or large scale farmed animals to be killed for food. I also understand the need to make it an assembly line due to the sheer quantity that is in demand. If you took the time to do it nicely in whatever form you consider nicely then it would be a waste of money and time AND we would end up with the brunt end when meat prices shoot up.
And while I am stepping on toes I will even go as far to say that the people in other countries that eat horses, goats, dogs, cats, ect. that we consider taboo to eat...all the more power to them. Again its all meat in the end and I know that if it came down to starvation or your dearly beloved fido you would chow down in the end.
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09-15-11, 08:40 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
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Now what I don't like is when people take pets, wild animals, or otherwise well treated animals to use for the fur/skin industry.
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They use wild blood pythons in the video.
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09-15-11, 08:44 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
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They use wild blood pythons in the video.
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Yes I realize that youngster and it is very sad. What you won't see is practices like this in the US (or shouldn't since they are regulated by the government). In fact you make more money farming your own animals rather than catching wild ones. But that is also a poor country without the real ability to farm animals like we can over in the states.
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09-15-11, 11:00 AM
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Re: Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic
I agree with the people saying that as long as all the parts are being used (or almost all) I'm ok with it. I wish they were killed a little more humanely, but what can you do?
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