Vet killed my baby

panther_dude · 09-03-04, 07:20 AM

After worrying about her eggs for a couple days I took my girl to the vet yesterday. She was gravid with infertile eggs. When I took her in he said she looked good except for being a little dehydrated, x-rays showed uncalcified embryo inside of her. Even after daily calcium supplements the eggs did not calcify.
He said that she would be alright with the eggs for a week or so and that surgery wasn't needed at this time, but might be needed in the future. SO he gave her a shot of subcutaneous FluidOutpatient, anyone know what this is? He said it was to rehydrate her and should start working in a couple of hours. He gave her the shot in her side is this right? Iasked if the surgery could be done because she had stopped eating two days before, ans he said it was best to wait. I left the vet feling that he had done a good job, but now looking back I dont know what to think.

This morning I found her on the bottom of the cage, with her tounge sticking out. MY poor baby I dont know what to do. I feel as if I could die. Ive spent hours everyday since I got her 9 months ago looking after her, and just watching her roam around eating crix. I feel absolutly hopeless guys, i dont know............

R.I.P Galadriel my beautiful girl I'll never forget you. :w o>

Shad0w · 09-03-04, 07:30 AM

Dood, Im so sorry to hear about the loss of Galadriel

Artemis · 09-03-04, 07:42 AM

Well, i warn you in advance, everyone is going to defend the vet. But I feel ya man. I spent a buttload of money for the vet to tell me everything was ok, and the next morning the litter of 6 kittens were all dead but one, which died in another day or so.

Outpatient subcutaneous fluids )if you are reading this on your vet receipt) means an injection of fluids (probably a saline solution) under the skin, that did not require the animal to stay overnight.

I am very sorry for your loss. I know how hard it is to be worried about something, so much that you want the professionals to help, and then have the vet tell you its fine, then find it dead. It is a mix of anger and sadness. All I can say is, I know YOU did the best you could for your pet, and thats alll anyone can ask.

Condolances-

Artemis

Dom · 09-03-04, 07:55 AM

IMO vets have procedure to take depending on the circumstances.. There is some critical descisions to take and he took one and decided it was safe...

I have had simillar accidents b4 with a vet .. lost two animals due to it. I held a grudge for the longest time but after a while let it go and realized that wether or not he did a mistake .. the dmv did what he was suppose to dowithin the best of his knoledge in order to help ..

Its unfortunate and I am trully sorry for your loss but I doubt nothing can be made as I see no real flaw in his work.

One advise.. Alwasy follow your gut instinc.. Its almost alwasy right..

Collide · 09-03-04, 08:18 AM

did u get a necropsy done id hightly recomend it, it will narrow down what the issue was to a fuller extent.

Im sorry for you loss, i know how it feels!

tdherper · 09-03-04, 09:26 AM

I'm saddened by your plight....

meow_mix450 · 09-03-04, 09:43 AM

sorry for your loss. But havnt you posted that your female has not been eating and such??? Im jsut curious if you have made that egg laying box for her to lay. The calcium supplements would not have help in that stage, calcium supplements must start once shes gravid, the last few days for supplements wont do anything.

Meow

Kimo · 09-03-04, 09:48 AM

So sorry to hear about your loss...but even a vet can't control nature...it's the way of things. once again sorry for your loss, and best wishes to you.

Josh

Invictus · 09-03-04, 09:51 AM

There was probably nothing the vet could have done, even with surgery. Chameleons have short lifespans as it is, and when they start to succumb to sickness, well... there isn't much anyone can do in most cases. I know it feels better to place the blame on the vet, but he/she probably did the best that he/she could under the circumstances.

In any event, sorry for your loss. I know how that feels.

panther_dude · 09-03-04, 11:07 AM

meow mix are you crazy. Do you really think that i want someone telling me that it was my fault she dies. When did I say I only started suppliments days before she died. I had a lay box in there three weeks ago, she never touched it. Have a little common curtisy. I loved her more then any pet Ive evder owned. I spent hours every single day making sure she was fit and healthy. How dare you try and blame me for her death. Yes she did stop eating on monday why do you think i took her to the vet.
What are you thinking when you post something like that.
The calcium supplements would not have help in that stage, calcium supplements must start once shes gravid, the last few days for supplements wont do anything
Do you really think I am that stupid.

But I do thank all the rest of you for your sympathy.
I talked to the vet today and he said he did what he thought was best. Then he said at the stage she was in she probably would have died anyways. So my question was " If you knew that yesterday then why the hell didnt you tell me!?" at least it wouldnt have been such a shock and I could have at least spent the night with her then. I just want to know why the eggs didnt calcify with all the supplements she was getting. Dam infertile eggs.

(edited ~ DragnDrop)

Ixidor · 09-03-04, 11:43 AM

I'm sorry to hear about your loss. Its always very sad when a pet dies

. I don't think meow mix was trying to say it was your fault, he/she was trying to suggest possible ways the panther could have died(I think.....).I don't think anyone really wants to have a go at you and say it was your fault though =( Anyway, I really am sorry about galadriel. A necropsy would narrow down exactly what might have happened, a lot of vets have very limited knowledge of herp care even if they say they've had experiance with herps, they're usually limited to a few species

Vengeance · 09-03-04, 11:45 AM

First just like to say sorry for you loss.

But also I'd like to say that if you don't want people's opinion on a subject such as this, you should keep it off public forums. I didn't see anything wrong with what Meow was saying, he or she was just offering an opinion.

DragnDrop · 09-03-04, 12:48 PM

I don't see any accusations in what Meow_mix posted. He was asking and making an observation from the way I interpret the post.

If you don't want people to jump to conclusions, please refrain from doing so yourself.

I'm sorry you lost your girl, but when things go wrong with gravid chams, they go fast. Chances are pretty good that nobody could have stopped it from happening. Cham reproduction is still a tough area for us, even the best breeders suffer losses. Nobody is blaming you.

dank7oo · 09-03-04, 02:42 PM

Sorry for the loss, but I hate to tell you it wasnt the VET who killed her. In fact, she was in your care, so if anyone is to blame it would be YOU (even though from what I have read there seems to be no explanation besides natures course for her death - nobodys fault).

Jason

meow_mix450 · 09-03-04, 03:12 PM

I hope that you didnt take my post the wrong way. I was just observering the possibilty that killed your veilded. I am not saying that its your fault or its the vets fault. I just didnt think that supplements at the last minute would have turned things around it might have i dont know, im no expert. Also if you have read my post i did not acuse you of killing your cham. Also that was a bit rude. Do i think your stupid; no i do not, im just pointing out my opinion and what i think. Again if you read my post i did say sorry for your loss.

Quote from Panther_dude:I just want to know why the eggs didnt calcify with all the supplements she was getting. Dam infertile eggs.

Well maybe we can answer that for you if you answer some of these question.
What supplements have you been giving?
How many times did you supplement?
And when did you start to increase the supplementation?

Quote from panther_dude:I talked to the vet today and he said he did what he thought was best. Then he said at the stage she was in she probably would have died anyways. So my question was " If you knew that yesterday then why the hell didnt you tell me!?"

Why didnt he tell you? there are many reasons why.
1 is money the other is he might have thought you were a senstive guy. Many possible answer.

I hope to get a sorry from you if you think i need one, and from the start i have been trying to help you sence you have posted that your chameleon has stopped eating. Acusing me of saying that its your fault was just wrong. Now i hope you dont take this post the wrong way either. Thanks to those who told him that i did not say i was saying he killed his cham

Meow