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06-08-04, 08:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan-2004
Location: Ingersoll, Ontario
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breeding ?
Whats a good recipe for breeding bloods?
I'd love to hear some stories
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07-01-04, 01:29 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
Location: South Florida
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I was going to try my hand this year at breeding my trio. But from what I am reading they may be too small. I have 1.2, the male is a little over 2FT long, females are about 2-1/2FT. I may have to wait till next year.
I was wondering what would a good healthy feeding routine be to get them ready for next year, if possible.
At 2FT long I feed them F/T med rats. I was wondering if every 7 days would be ok or every 10-14 days would be better?
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07-01-04, 01:32 PM
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Join Date: Apr-2003
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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The more you feed them the faster they grow...but if you feed to forfully then they end up having a shorter life span, from what i understand. I feed my ball python every 7 days and hes growing nicely. I think once a week is a good regimen.
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07-01-04, 01:46 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
Location: South Florida
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That's what I am going to stick with. I have bred Dumeril's and BCI's before. Trying my hand at JCP's and Bloods now. My JCP's should be ready this season, bloods will have to wait.
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JCP 1.2, Dumerils 1.2, Dubay Pastels 0.3, Albino 1.2, Het Albinos 1.1, DH Sunglow 0.1, Hypos 2.0, DH Ghost 1.0, Anery 0.1, Hogs 1.1
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07-01-04, 05:47 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2003
Location: Edmonton, AB
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How old are your bloods? Yes, they are too small. You want to wait untill the females are at least 4 feet before you breed. The male should be at least three. Most people wait until they are 2 1/2 years old before they breed their bloods. My male is going to be breeding this winter. He will be 2 1/2 years old and 4 feet long. I am awaiting my(or my friends) puchase of an adult female blood, that will be 5ft long, and 3+ years old. If you feed every 5-7 days, there is a chance they might be breedable by december/04, but you may have to wait till december/05. My female is 2ft long, and is 9 months old. Good luck!
C.
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0.2 Bloods for Sale. Adult and juvinile. PM me for details.
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Chris
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07-01-04, 06:51 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
Location: South Florida
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All the 3 Bloods are a little less than 1-1/2 years old. I'll probably give them till Dec 05 to be on the safe side. I'm in no rush and I don't want to push them. I'll feed the females every 7-10 days. Probably feed the male every 10-14 days.
My JCP's should be ready this December for sure.
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JCP 1.2, Dumerils 1.2, Dubay Pastels 0.3, Albino 1.2, Het Albinos 1.1, DH Sunglow 0.1, Hypos 2.0, DH Ghost 1.0, Anery 0.1, Hogs 1.1
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07-01-04, 07:22 PM
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Join Date: May-2004
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Age: 36
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the females should be about 3 to 4 years of age they can have serious problems if bred to young so check into it more before breeding thanks.
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Sid.Laan
0.2 malaysian bloods, 1.0 pastel ball pthon, 1.1 het albino ball python, 0.2 66% het albino ball python, 0.6 50% het albino ball python, 0.12 normal ball pythons, 1.0 normal ball pythons, 1.0 rainwater albino leopard gecko, 0.1 reg leopard geckos.
Thats all for now, will have more soon (Hopefully)
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07-01-04, 07:45 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
Location: South Florida
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By this December they would be about 2 years old, December 05 they would be 3 years old and hopefully at least 4-5FT. They feed well and are very healthy. I keep them know in Melamine 2X2 enclosures, but will move them to 4X2 when needed. Right now I keep them on Astroturf flooring, with a rubbermaid for water and one filled halfway with moss sphagnum moss. They love hidding under this stuff!
Is breeding Bloods similar to Boas? You know, stop feeding around Sept, drop temps Nov-Dec, add the male on and off, etc?
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JCP 1.2, Dumerils 1.2, Dubay Pastels 0.3, Albino 1.2, Het Albinos 1.1, DH Sunglow 0.1, Hypos 2.0, DH Ghost 1.0, Anery 0.1, Hogs 1.1
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07-01-04, 08:41 PM
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Join Date: May-2004
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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then they should be alright to breed if the females are at least 4-5 the male can be alot smaller. good luck with them all and you should post some pics of them.
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Sid.Laan
0.2 malaysian bloods, 1.0 pastel ball pthon, 1.1 het albino ball python, 0.2 66% het albino ball python, 0.6 50% het albino ball python, 0.12 normal ball pythons, 1.0 normal ball pythons, 1.0 rainwater albino leopard gecko, 0.1 reg leopard geckos.
Thats all for now, will have more soon (Hopefully)
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07-02-04, 06:22 AM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
Location: South Florida
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thanks
Thanks, I will post some recent pics as soon as I clean my cages this weekend. I posted some pics of my Dumerils last night.
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JCP 1.2, Dumerils 1.2, Dubay Pastels 0.3, Albino 1.2, Het Albinos 1.1, DH Sunglow 0.1, Hypos 2.0, DH Ghost 1.0, Anery 0.1, Hogs 1.1
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07-02-04, 03:56 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
Location: South Florida
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I do notice my Bloods are lighter in color than most bloods I see here. Not sure if that's a good thing, they are also quick to snap!
Compared to my Boas which don't even hiss. My JCP's hiss, but settle down once outside.
I try and handle the Bloods about twice a week on average and you'd think they would calm down? Nope! At least now they let me go in the enclosure to clean up and change the water!
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JCP 1.2, Dumerils 1.2, Dubay Pastels 0.3, Albino 1.2, Het Albinos 1.1, DH Sunglow 0.1, Hypos 2.0, DH Ghost 1.0, Anery 0.1, Hogs 1.1
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07-02-04, 10:43 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2003
Location: Edmonton, AB
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If they are wild caught, it might be harder to tame them down, and they may never tame down. By nature, this species is more agressive. With twice a week handling, they should calm down. How long have you had them? Some bloods are light in color, some are not. You might have some blond faze bloods. I have seen some with no orange or red pigmentation(all beige/yellowish), and some with almost all orange and red pigmentation. You can feed your male and females weekly. Its not pushing them, and its great, easy to maintain(set a designated feeding day for every week), and healthy as they eat regularly with no variation(such as one times its 8 days between feeding the next its 14 then 7), would be kind of odd. Good luck, and yes, definetly wait till December 05 before starting to breed them. Good luck!
C.
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0.2 Bloods for Sale. Adult and juvinile. PM me for details.
Cheers!
Chris
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07-03-04, 05:58 AM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
Location: South Florida
Age: 51
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Thanks for the advise.
They are CBB, at least that's what I was told by the seller/breader. I saw the parents and a few siblings which looked like them; so I am confident they are CB. I've had these for about 2 months and they are about 1-1/2 years old.
I didn't get them when they were babies and I know the previous owner did not spend too much time holding his snakes. I hope with time they calm down. I don't hold my snakes for too long, I try and at least try for 5-10 mintes 2-3 times a week.
As for the color they are light, almost a cream yellowish color with a almost a light pink. I'll post pics when I clean out their cages this weekend.
Fedding right now is 1 med F/T rat every 7 days. The male is always willing, the females are a little reluctant but haven't missed a meal when left over night.
Do you think the 1.2 ratio is good? Or do you think I should get another male? I wanted to buy 2.2 but the breeder already had the siblings sold. Not sure if I need another male thou.
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JCP 1.2, Dumerils 1.2, Dubay Pastels 0.3, Albino 1.2, Het Albinos 1.1, DH Sunglow 0.1, Hypos 2.0, DH Ghost 1.0, Anery 0.1, Hogs 1.1
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07-03-04, 03:44 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2003
Location: Edmonton, AB
Age: 34
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You do not need another male. Its sounds like he(previous owner) was not feeding them much. Yes they should calm down with time. If you keep that up, you should expect changes to start happening soon(within the next few months). Some snake will stay that way, and never calm down. Expect the possibility that they all stay the way they are for the rest of their life. Keep up the weekly feeding, with something the same size or a little bigger than their girth. This will ensure that by december 05, they will be of healthy breeding size and you should not have any worries about size. Sounds like you have blonde faze bloods. Do post some pics of them. Good luck!
C.
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0.2 Bloods for Sale. Adult and juvinile. PM me for details.
Cheers!
Chris
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07-03-04, 04:05 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
Location: South Florida
Age: 51
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Here are some pics of one of the females. The pics aren't very good. The male has a very nice tail pattern.
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JCP 1.2, Dumerils 1.2, Dubay Pastels 0.3, Albino 1.2, Het Albinos 1.1, DH Sunglow 0.1, Hypos 2.0, DH Ghost 1.0, Anery 0.1, Hogs 1.1
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