lol....Mark, thats one reason I posted the bare bones of the project...I wanted to show the progress....i knew people were looking at it like "what the...." it had no substance as an outline but add shading and colour.....and the picture pops!
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so far approx. 10 hours have been put into it excluding the elbow piece and older existing work(which he's added too so it all blends together). I'd estimate another 6 hours before it is complete.