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point taken, but im still a bit curious as to how you can judge if a snake is "stressed" or not ? i mean if im a lil stressed, doesnt stop me from "mating" hell makes me feel a whole lot more relaxed! same with food! ( and im not taking in an emotional state either) just over all feel relaxed! and im sorry once again my first post was a mistype on my part, i did not mean to bash the rack system! i guess my lil mind can't comprehend it! and as to saphiremoons post, your right, I cant make it 100% natural! if i did! what the hell is the point in keeping herps? so we can kill em off with parisites and predators? no, that was not my point, and im sorry if i mislead you into thinking as such, my point was merely trying to provide as close to as possible their natural habbitat while maintaining a safe enviroment! no you also mentioned somthing in regards to cage size, this i understand, no matter how big, it's still not "home" to them, but i try my damndest to provide just that! and i would like to think that these snakes have some intelligence, and not just instincts!, hell being the lil escape artists they are proves that! doesnt it? or perhaps it's just the instinct to roam around free! that we are obviously denying them? let the debate rage on again! and please remember! this is merely a learning experience for me! i am completely open minded here, and am trying to learn as much as i can through this "debate" else if we didnt question eachother, how would we learn!!!
Kimo
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