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Originally Posted by Xanafein
I'm Sure i'm going to be pissing off ALOT of people when i say this, but Using Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Is extremely inhumane, it is the exact equivalent of sealing them in tupper-ware, it pushes the oxygen from the chamber and gives them nothing to breath
Breaking there necks if done right is the only really painless way i can think of short of spending a rather large amount of cash on a way to administer Carbon Monoxide (CO)
^that wasnt the part that i think will piss people off, this is
I personally have been bitten by so many feeders when feeding Prekilled, that I see no reason in treating them humanely as pets, to me its almost the same as offering a deathrow inmate a last meal ect, You are going to kill them and feed them to your pet anyways, why try and pretty it up by doing it in such an elaborate (and in the case of a CO2 chamber) More painful way?
Done making a complete @$$ out of myself, sorry, i had to get it out there, it irks me that people think a carbon dioxide chamber is like putting them to sleep, and that it is a humane way of doing things If you want something Cheap and painless, Fry their nervous system with an apropriatly applied spinal break, or highvoltage electricity
My friend did that, filled a tub with water, took some jumper cables and a car battery, I guarantee you they where dead the second the current hit, and electricity is one of the ways we execute death row inmates, far more humane also even it it has not killed all of there systems, the brain itself is totaly dead from the first jolt, so they cant feel a thing
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All I have to say is that euthanasia via CO2 is an acceptable method of euthanasia as determined by the American Veterinary Medical Association (see AVMA Euthanasia Guidelines).
"Several investigators have suggested that inhalation of high concentrations of CO2 may be distressing to animals,(63-66) because the gas dissolves in moisture on the nasal mucosa. The resulting product, carbonic acid, may stimulate nociceptors in the nasal mucosa. Some humans exposed to concentrations of around 50% CO2 report that inhaling the gas is unpleasant and that higher concentrations are noxious.(67,68) A brief study of swine examined the aversive nature of CO2 exposure(69) and found that 90% CO2 was aversive to pigs while 30% was not.
For rats, exposure to increasing concentrations of CO2 (33% achieved after 1 minute) in their home cage produced no evident stress as measured by behavior and ACTH, glucose, and corticosterone concentrations in serum.(70)"
I guarantee you that you would see elevated ACTH, glucose, and corticosterone in rodents that died via constriction.
Note that electrocution is NOT a humane method of euthanasia. It causes death by cardiac fibrillation, NOT "frying the brain."
"However,
animals do not lose consciousness for 10 to 30 seconds or more after onset of cardiac fibrillation. It is imperative that animals be unconscious before being electrocuted. This can be accomplished by any acceptable means, including electrical stunning.(25) Although an effective, 1* step stunning and electrocution method has been described for use in sheep and hogs, euthanasia by electrocution in most species remains a 2-step procedure.(25, 63,140) ... Although the method is conditionally acceptable if the aforementioned requirements are met, its disadvantages far outweigh its advantages in most applications. Techniques that apply electric current from head to tail, head to foot, or head to moistened metal plates on which the animal is standing are unacceptable."
Now tell me, if these so-called "humane" methods of euthanasia were really humane, do you really think they would be grounds for a veterinarian to lose his license if he used them?
About the only true thing you said is that cervical dislocation is humane. Nothing else you mention has any scientific grounds for support.
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