Thank you jjhill001 I go back and forth on the sani chips. I have worked with them in the past with rodents and I definitely know how much they stick like glue to everything. I keep picturing a pinky covered in it going down my snake and cringe. I already have a heat pad. I have heard that hognose like hot spot closer to the low 90's. That is why I was thinking of going with the che and heat pad. I have decided to go with the smaller enclosure but not with everything in it. I don't know how warm a heat pad gets. Plus a silly question um does the heat pad plug into the thermostat and then you set the temp on the thermostat and the probe on the pad to make sure it stays the right temp?