maine is the start to the end of it all

fishingfool · 03-30-16, 05:17 AM

Maine,USA is going to be the start of the fall of reptiles i urge you to go to youtube and look up a video about these new laws they are planning on inacting for that person have read into it more then I. basically in a nut shell they are going to ban everything that is considered invasive elsewhere and make it impossible for an avrage joe to get a permit to keep otherwise banned pets and they are closeing the exsibitors loophole 40 shows a year or 500 people must be seem with the critters in question or they revoke it and if these types of laws take a foot hold its only a matter of time befor it spreds and mabye not to you but mabye to a place you might have enjoyed liveing at some point this is about way more then a couple snakes and lizzards its about the government seeping into our private lives and controling them as it stabds maine already have the stricktest laws regarding pets in the nation also if you do somehow get a permit witch involes haveing 150000000$ in insurance you are also not allowed to let people interact with the pet or the supplies for any maine residents the wildlife commissioners assistant is takeing emailes please befor emailing read a little more into it so you may have a more prepared statement the Email is. christl.f.theriault@maine.gov thank you for any help you give

Albert Clark · 03-30-16, 09:58 AM

I recently got the email from USARK about this ridiculous legislation proposal. I think USARK is going to begin a battle with Maines local government on April 1, 2016. That is the date to begin in court with hearings and arguments. Thank you and I will get on it right away.

KrokadilyanGuy3 · 03-30-16, 06:16 PM

Florida is on the same path, just haven't made it public. I work closely with fish and game and before leaving they had planned on banning anything that can become invasive, venomous and dangerous to people.

This pretty much means everything.

fishingfool · 03-30-16, 07:27 PM

Pretty much witch i think there is a clear bias with the reptiles because last time i checked feral dogs and cats are a problem on a good amout of the world I'm glad usark is on it tho mabye i will go to the courts and watch a round

KrokadilyanGuy3 · 03-30-16, 08:48 PM

What's funny is they recently caught over a hundred stray cats from one area, fixed them and then released them back into the wild..
The burm issue, they placed fake snakes around the states in high attraction areas to scare.. I mean educate people about the issue which really isn't that big of an issue. Comparitively.

bigsnakegirl785 · 03-30-16, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KrokadilyanGuy3

What's funny is they recently caught over a hundred stray cats from one area, fixed them and then released them back into the wild..
The burm issue, they placed fake snakes around the states in high attraction areas to scare.. I mean educate people about the issue which really isn't that big of an issue. Comparitively.

Apparently TNR is more effective than just killing them, because new unfixed cats will just take their place. But still, that's 100 cats killing wildlife, if they can fix and release phenomenally invasive animals like cats, it makes no sense they have no tolerance for virtually zero invasive reptiles (some species are highly invasive but the majority of exotics don't seem to be all that invasive - it's the ones from temperate areas you have to worry about).

The whole nation is trying to out exotics, if it's not at the state level, it's at the county level.

fishingfool · 03-31-16, 06:22 AM

Speaking of cat farmington NH had to pass a law allowing the discharge of firearms in town beacuse the wild cat population ended up with rabies and how is it fare to let stray cats back out when stray dofs get like a week then they kill them

sirtalis · 03-31-16, 07:29 AM

Its just plain stupid imo... thanks for sharing, glad I live in Texas though :P

KrokadilyanGuy3 · 03-31-16, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785

Apparently TNR is more effective than just killing them, because new unfixed cats will just take their place. But still, that's 100 cats killing wildlife, if they can fix and release phenomenally invasive animals like cats, it makes no sense they have no tolerance for virtually zero invasive reptiles (some species are highly invasive but the majority of exotics don't seem to be all that invasive - it's the ones from temperate areas you have to worry about).

The whole nation is trying to out exotics, if it's not at the state level, it's at the county level.

Yeah, that's what they say.
If you ask me, the program they use to spay and neuter strays and the same program they use to pay off hunters with the burms, they could affectively pursue a cat bounty.

But then, Id imagine people's pets start to disappear.. Which I believe cats should be kept indoors but that's a different story.

fishingfool · 04-07-16, 01:26 PM

Update locals don't give a ****. foothold aparently found in maine for total pet removal have a nice day

dannybgoode · 04-09-16, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KrokadilyanGuy3

Florida is on the same path, just haven't made it public. I work closely with fish and game and before leaving they had planned on banning anything that can become invasive, venomous and dangerous to people.

This pretty much means everything.

Does that include humans?!

travesty · 04-09-16, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785

The whole nation is trying to out exotics, if it's not at the state level, it's at the county level.

They tried to ban all boas and pythons in Norman, Ok recently. Enough people went to the council meetings and made a stink to the point where the law didn't pass. So I don't think it's hopeless everywhere at least.

pet_snake_78 · 04-09-16, 10:41 AM

There are millions of reptiles keepers in the US. If we educate them all and get them to become vocal, we can defeat many of these regulations. If we sit quietly by as we always have, reptile keeping will be restricted to a handfull of snake mills that produce poor quality animals for petco and you'll have your choice of a severly inbred, sickly leopard gecko or a corn snake.

KrokadilyanGuy3 · 04-10-16, 07:40 PM

It's a point where we all need to ban together. Florida for instance is under direct attack with venomous and with only 300 or so licensed keepers, it's a down hill battle where many others disagree with keeping venomous, and that's including within our community.
Same with large constrictors and/or crocodilians. Many within our community don't agree with keeping these animals in which they won't voice their stand. Not until their animals are up for grabs.

fishingfool · 04-11-16, 10:13 AM

Damn its worse then i even thought this is way to deep into personal lives i myself would loce a couple hots in my house but maine has had that banned for years already