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10-11-15, 11:39 AM
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Re: White Lipped Python
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I left the room for about 20 minutes and when I came back he was nowhere near the rat. The only way I've ever been able to get him to eat is by taunting him/non stop moving the rat but lately that just makes him defensive. I don't leave them overnight because he's never taken then overnight and I like to be able to refreeze.
Yeah I was worried he might do that with live which made me kinda weary of trying it but I know I need to..
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Go with the live. I suspect it'll eat just fine. I recommend leaving it alone over night even if it kills the live prey. The snake may wait awhile to eat. Some snakes prefer grosser food.
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10-11-15, 11:56 AM
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Re: White Lipped Python
I'll do that. The times I've left it overnight I'd dangle it again in the morning/midday with the same response :/ Even if he does eat I'll still be taking him to the vet. If he doesn't take a live rat then a live chick will be my next step.
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10-11-15, 12:07 PM
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Re: White Lipped Python
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I'll do that. The times I've left it overnight I'd dangle it again in the morning/midday with the same response :/ Even if he does eat I'll still be taking him to the vet. If he doesn't take a live rat then a live chick will be my next step.
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If he eats then I'd hold off on a vet for the time being unless there's another issue you need checked out. I would err on the side of caution of any new stress to stop eating again.
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10-11-15, 12:16 PM
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Re: White Lipped Python
Good point. Its just the amount of weight loss is alarming to me for such a short time and he did have that lump so I guess I wanted to err on the side of caution. I guess we'll just have to see what happens. I always found it odd how calm he is once out haha. I took him out a few mins ago just to look him over and see just how much hes lost and its quite a bit. The lump is smaller looking but I'm not sure if thats to do with the weight loss. I don't get him out when he's off feed but I wanted to make sure nothing was visibly wrong.
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Last edited by SnoopySnake; 10-11-15 at 12:40 PM..
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10-12-15, 09:36 PM
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Re: White Lipped Python
I have had lots of snakes that would only eat live for a time or would go off feed until I offered a live meal or two then they got back on board with frozen/thawed again.
I wouldn't refreeze food, though. Once it's warm, I'd toss it if not used.
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10-13-15, 05:46 PM
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Re: White Lipped Python
Bought the live rat tonight and honestly it made me really sad giving it to him...so far he's killed it and I can't tell if he's eating it yet.
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10-13-15, 06:46 PM
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Re: White Lipped Python
He finally ate for me!
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10-13-15, 07:10 PM
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Re: White Lipped Python
Right on snoopy. Sometimes that's what it takes. Glad to hear he's finally eating. Now just keep up the good work and keep us updated on his progress.
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10-13-15, 07:35 PM
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Re: White Lipped Python
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He finally ate for me!
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Just do it a few times. Probably another 2 to 4 meals then try frozen thawed again.
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10-13-15, 07:38 PM
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Re: White Lipped Python
Congrats Adrian. That's great news.
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10-14-15, 12:07 AM
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Re: White Lipped Python
I'd be willing to bet that lump ends up being nematodes. The lumps will disappear when the worm isn't right under the skin. It might take you a couple trips(don't always show up on the first go) but to reduce stress I'd start by taking his next poo in for a fecal exam.
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10-14-15, 11:00 AM
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Re: White Lipped Python
Thanks guys, I don't like doing live but it was easier than I thought and he definitely needed to eat.
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I'd be willing to bet that lump ends up being nematodes. The lumps will disappear when the worm isn't right under the skin. It might take you a couple trips(don't always show up on the first go) but to reduce stress I'd start by taking his next poo in for a fecal exam.
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That's what I was told by someone else, the lump is always in the same spot but sometimes it protrudes less than others it seems. His appointment is on the 19th, its the only day my dad has off till November so I figured I should do it now rather than wait.
I'm just SO glad he's eating again.
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10-14-15, 11:39 AM
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Re: White Lipped Python
Hey, been following this thread since I got my wlp. I'm so glad you were able to get him to eat. Its stressful when they go off. When I got mine and fed him the first time, he came out, sniffed around the rat at the end of my tweezers, circled around a bit and then calmly took it from me, set it on the ground and ate it after about 2 minutes.
About 14 days later I tried again and he didnt come out. Left it there and he moved it but didnt eat it.
Waited another 10 or so days and again he didnt come out and I left it. This was at around 10 at night. By the morning it was gone. Reading your thread and seeing the weightloss was pretty scary. I felt like I was going to have to go the same route! lol.
Sucks you had to go with live. My BP is stuck on live though I plan on trying to go with FT again soon to see if I can switch him with some other ways. Stubborn little guy. I love the thrill of a live hunt and the strike of a snake on the hunt but theres a HUGE risk of bites. As thrilling as it is most times, sometimes its stressful as hell because snakes are, you know, shy. Rats especially like to just run up to the snake and walk all over them. BPs dont dig that so much and they seem to prefer to ambush rather than chase.
Good luck with continued feedings.
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10-14-15, 12:26 PM
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Re: White Lipped Python
The live feeding does make me nervous because he struck 5 or 6 times before he actually grabbed the rat so it seems he has bad aim...I just hate to hear them once they get grabbed. He's taken f/t before so hopefully he'll go back. I won't push it until his weight is back up, though.
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10-14-15, 01:18 PM
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Re: White Lipped Python
Glad he's eating again! Usually in these cases the snake will go back on f/t no problem once their appetite is back, so you shouldn't have to bear the live feeding for too much longer 
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