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05-03-15, 08:38 PM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
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Originally Posted by mrgrimm
I am not trying to bash tub keepers here, but there is more than a "single negative" to keeping a snake in a tub. I think it is very important to allow ANY animal a bit of room to live. Any enclosure that doesn't AT LEAST allow a snake to stretch completely out is just plain too small for my likings. Sure they will survive all kinds of inappropriate conditions, but IMO if you want them to thrive they should be able to stretch out, climb, exercise, and explore.
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You're clearly not aware that things like this exist...
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05-04-15, 12:16 AM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
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The needs of humans and snakes are quite different. After all, a human doesn't need to go lay on a giant heat mat after eating and that's only the first thing off the top of my head.
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You don't know my life.
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05-04-15, 12:16 AM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
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I doubt the majority of snake keepers are using those though.
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05-04-15, 12:25 AM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
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I doubt the majority of snake keepers are using those though.
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So? Your point was that tubs don't provide adequate space. I gave you an example of one (of many) that do. I've got three of them that aren't being used as well as two other sizes that would be perfect for BPs.
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05-04-15, 06:28 AM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
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Damn it. You guys have all the best stuff
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05-04-15, 08:43 AM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
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Damn it. You guys have all the best stuff
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We can get those sizes too. Wait until Christmas time; they're normally used for storing Christmas trees. But you'd need to figure out a way to secure the lid because as far as I know none of the ones we get have nice secure lids like those Iris ones do.
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I doubt the majority of snake keepers are using those though.
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That doesn't make size a downside to using tubs, though. Snake keepers just as often use actual terrariums that are too small for their animals. I've seen terrariums on the market that appear to be too small for any reptile that I could think of, but are advertised as being suitable for a variety of snakes and lizards. It's a problem with the keepers who choose to use undersized enclosures, not a problem with the enclosures themselves.
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05-04-15, 09:27 AM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
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We can get those sizes too. Wait until Christmas time; they're normally used for storing Christmas trees. But you'd need to figure out a way to secure the lid because as far as I know none of the ones we get have nice secure lids like those Iris ones do.
That doesn't make size a downside to using tubs, though. Snake keepers just as often use actual terrariums that are too small for their animals. I've seen terrariums on the market that appear to be too small for any reptile that I could think of, but are advertised as being suitable for a variety of snakes and lizards. It's a problem with the keepers who choose to use undersized enclosures, not a problem with the enclosures themselves.
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I know i can ger the size.its the materials i want
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05-04-15, 11:36 AM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
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Originally Posted by prairiepanda
That doesn't make size a downside to using tubs, though. Snake keepers just as often use actual terrariums that are too small for their animals. I've seen terrariums on the market that appear to be too small for any reptile that I could think of, but are advertised as being suitable for a variety of snakes and lizards. It's a problem with the keepers who choose to use undersized enclosures, not a problem with the enclosures themselves.
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I agree for example the exp terra 8"x8"x8" cube is pretty much useless aside from neonates of small species like hatchling bush vipers. but even then that enclosure would only be an appropriate stize for 6 months at best.
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05-04-15, 05:58 PM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
For the long tubs, you'll want to rack those regardless of it comes with a lid because otherwise you'd waste a lot of space and trying to work with them stacked directly on top of one another would be miserable. You can keep the lids on the sterilite 1996 and rack it but I found the humidity stayed quite high that way, be prepared to melt a lot of holes unless you're keeping something that wants 100% humidity!
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05-04-15, 10:24 PM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
It depends on the animal. Some types of snakes are relatively active(tiger ratsnakes) and I'd give them lots of room for movement. Others are relatively inactive(ambush hunters that stay in one spot for long periods of time) and don't require as much space.
It doesn't matter whether you use a tub, tank, cage..etc. The more important question is, how big should the enclosure be for the animal you plan to house?
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05-05-15, 12:01 AM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792
It depends on the animal. Some types of snakes are relatively active(tiger ratsnakes) and I'd give them lots of room for movement. Others are relatively inactive(ambush hunters that stay in one spot for long periods of time) and don't require as much space.
It doesn't matter whether you use a tub, tank, cage..etc. The more important question is, how big should the enclosure be for the animal you plan to house?
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05-05-15, 06:40 PM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
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Originally Posted by Minkness
Josh, they were talking about the long bins. If they have the clips on just the ends, the muddle can be pushed up easier by a strong snake, so the bunjees are to prevent the middle from being pushed up.
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Oh i see! I think I'd consider building a wooden frame kinda like a rack system then. I dunno, maybe I'm just picky and would like to display my pets- that being said, a clear plastic tub in a rack would be okay cause i could still see the reptile, or Human... I mean...
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05-17-15, 04:56 PM
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Re: Keeping snakes in sterlite/plastic tubs?
Tub keepers, good responses! I was more or less talking about the "smaller" tubs I was more familiar with seeing in youtube vids rack systems. I would have to agree that yes, there are some tubs out there that are more than big enough to allow adequate space for even a large snake!
And for the comparing snakes to humans - yea I know it's a little off, but to completely respect something different from me, I always try to "walk a mile in their shoes" or in this case slither a few feet on their bellies, lol...provided there is at least a bit of room to do so in your setup
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