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Old 04-09-15, 11:13 AM   #1
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heating question. Ceramic bulbs vs UTH

Quick question regarding heating my two snakes enclosures. I've got a California King snake and a ball python. While cleaning my snake eenclosures the other day I found that the under the tank heater in my king snakes tank was very hot. My temps say it was around normal range but when I touched the glass it felt like it might be too warm. I use aspen bedding and my king loves to bury herself in it and would have her belly right against that glass a lot. I don't want her to burn herself but touching the mat almost burned my fingers.

I unplugged my under the tank heaters and switched my heating sources to ceramic bulbs. I leave them on all night because they don't emit any light.

I have read that snakes benefit mostly from belly heat and don't frequently bask, so I'm worried that heat bulbs might not be the best for them.

I'm also concerned about bulbs making the tank too dry for my ball. She spends a lot of time in her water dish, but she does seem to bask when her light is on.

Is it crucial for them to have constant heat, or just day time heating?

I'm still pretty new to snake keeping, I'm just trying to figure out the best way to keep them healthy.

Should I switch back to heat mats, and if so how can I keep them from burning my snakes?

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Old 04-09-15, 11:15 AM   #2
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Re: heating question. Ceramic bulbs vs UTH

I've been using the petsmart brand mats "all living things" but I've had a bad experience using heat mats with other reptiles too, one even getting so hot it split the wood of my desk the tank was on
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Re: heating question. Ceramic bulbs vs UTH

Hi! you need to control any heat source with a thermostat, even if the manufacturer says that it won't go beyond a temperature.
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Hi! you need to control any heat source with a thermostat, even if the manufacturer says that it won't go beyond a temperature.
Thanks, this is helpful. Is there a brand you would recommend? do you have to get them as a pack or will a thermostat work with any mat?

Do you think my snakes would be alalright with only bulb heating for the rest of the week?
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Re: heating question. Ceramic bulbs vs UTH

I use hygrofarm thermostats they work great. theyre available on amazon for around $45.
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Thanks, this is helpful. Is there a brand you would recommend? do you have to get them as a pack or will a thermostat work with any mat?

Do you think my snakes would be alalright with only bulb heating for the rest of the week?
I use and i know a bunch of others here use hydrofarm thermostats. Got mine off Amazon for like $40
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I use hygrofarm thermostats they work great. theyre available on amazon for around $45.
Beat me to it haha
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I use this one: Zilla 11939 Temperature Controller , 1000-Watt

but pretty sure there are cheaper ones
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Re: heating question. Ceramic bulbs vs UTH

Thanks for all the quick answers, guys. I will pick up some thermostat controls next paycheck. I'm assuming this means under the tank heaters are always preferred over basking bulbs? I'm used to keeping animals like bearded dragons and desert skinks so I've got so many domes and bulbs hanging around the apartment.
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Ya exactly. get the t.stat and connect to the UTH
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Re: heating question. Ceramic bulbs vs UTH

In my case, I had to use both as the UTH wasnt enough to heat my boys during winter, so I don't know how cold is still over there.
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In my case, I had to use both as the UTH wasnt enough to heat my boys during winter, so I don't know how cold is still over there.
I'm in boston and it's been a miserable winter, and so far a very cold spring.
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In my case, I had to use both as the UTH wasnt enough to heat my boys during winter, so I don't know how cold is still over there.
Thats surprising didnt think the winter would have been that cold in mexico. I have the t.stats on my uth up here and dont think they kicked off at all this winter but wouldnt have expected that to be an issue there at all.
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Thats surprising didnt think the winter would have been that cold in mexico. I have the t.stats on my uth up here and dont think they kicked off at all this winter but wouldnt have expected that to be an issue there at all.
I live in Mexico City, and we are pretty high between mountains :P We also get the remanents of the cold fronts coming from the north. This last years it doesn't get colder than 0°C tho
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I use and i know a bunch of others here use hydrofarm thermostats. Got mine off Amazon for like $40
If you watch they get as low as $30 from time to time. When I first started using them they were about $26. :/
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