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Old 02-20-15, 10:59 AM   #46
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More Crotalus's please! Anyone have a Crotalus Oreganus Cerberus aka Arizona Black Rattlesnake? Thats my favorite Crotalus very closely followed by Crotalus Molossus.
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More Crotalus's please! Anyone have a Crotalus Oreganus Cerberus aka Arizona Black Rattlesnake? Thats my favorite Crotalus very closely followed by Crotalus Molossus.
There actually no longer oreganus they made them there own species, it's just crotalus Cerberus. Crotalus can be a very confusing family to learn the names of because they are always changing there Latin names.
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nice cerb, any idea of it's local?
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Old 02-20-15, 11:45 AM   #49
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Well I guess I will chime in with my garter snake as it is rare and not seen at shows. I have a San Francisco garter snake. He does not look as striking as some of his kind I have seen, but he is nice. I will try to post pictures later.

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I swear you and CrotalusR#1 are the man. Thats my favorite of the Crotalus family. Hows their temperament in captivity and where do you find these guys?

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There actually no longer oreganus they made them there own species, it's just crotalus Cerberus. Crotalus can be a very confusing family to learn the names of because they are always changing there Latin names.
Thanks for the info, seems like as soon as you learn it changes, lol.
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nice cerb, any idea of it's local?
Nope, that does not matter to me. Even if they would have told me, I would have forgotten.
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I swear you and CrotalusR#1 are the man. Thats my favorite of the Crotalus family. Hows their temperament in captivity and where do you find these guys?



Thanks for the info, seems like as soon as you learn it changes, lol.
I got them from my private venomous guy. I have a guy that can find me just about anything I want. Their temperament is calm, but very active.
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Nope, that does not matter to me. Even if they would have told me, I would have forgotten.
Reason I ask is because of the huge variation from mountain to mountain with Cerberus and other crotes. So if some one has a cerb in mined that they want that they have seen pictures of online and they go to buy one thinking it's going to look like that, that may not be the case because of the variations, that's just why I like to know locals so I know what I am getting .
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Reason I ask is because of the huge variation from mountain to mountain with Cerberus and other crotes. So if some one has a cerb in mined that they want that they have seen pictures of online and they go to buy one thinking it's going to look like that, that may not be the case because of the variations, that's just why I like to know locals so I know what I am getting .
Yea I know, but I enjoy all the color and pattern differences, so it never matters to me where they come from. I know many people like locals, I'm just not one of them.
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Yea I know, but I enjoy all the color and pattern differences, so it never matters to me where they come from. I know many people like locals, I'm just not one of them.
I totally get that. There are many species where it could be what some people would call dull or whatever and it's more about having the a species. Like most crotalus oreganus concolor are that way for me, usually a faded badge color but that's one of my all time favorite snakes.

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I once considered buying a baby Elephant trunk snake. Pretty glad I didn't. The wrinklyness of them makes them quite adorable imo. But I'm not prepared for that kind of commitment, as I hear they're quite demanding care-wise! XD

I think in the future I'll stick with Asian vine snakes. They're very charming and I love their eyes!
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Some of my Colubrids…

They are not really rare but also not common

Two Colubrids from south east Asia

Red tailed green rat snake (Gonyosoma oxycephalum)




Rhino rat snake (Rhynchophis boulengeri)




Perhaps the most exotic Colubrid for you US/Canadian herpers, a European rat snake

Aesculapian snake (Zamenis longissimus)





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From South America (Argentina)

Barons racer (Philodryas baroni)






And from Central to South America

Tiger rat snake (Spilotes pullatus)










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I think in the future I'll stick with Asian vine snakes. They're very charming and I love their eyes!


I don’t think that’s a good idea, we discussed this here --> http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...ine-snake.html

You need to feed the vine snakes with lizards, so it might be difficult to get enough food year-round.

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