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06-03-14, 06:46 AM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
Yikes, that looks terrible! I didn't realize it sliced like that.
I love looking at burms and all, but the big snakes just aren't for me. I guess I could say that their sheer size intimidates me. I'm gonna stick with my teeny little snakes. :P
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06-03-14, 07:57 AM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
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Originally Posted by millertime89
Don't waste your time arguing with him over his misguided opinions (And yes Aaron, that's what they are, opinions). He's not worth the bandwidth he takes up in this section. If the animal is growing and is healthy then there is no reason to stuff them full of food to make them grow faster. You just end up with an obese animal that is a bear to deal with for 1/3rd (if not more) of the year.
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I made a comment in regards to a statement you made about "slow growing" animals so as to keep it safer for the keeper.
As it was perceived (remember the saying it's not how it's said it's how it's perceived) that someone would "slow grow" as in to keep the animal smaller because the keeper can't or doesn't want to handle the animal at it's full potential which makes it a selfish reason.
In the original comment it was nothing to do with obesity and health other than the keeper.
The End.
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06-03-14, 01:06 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
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I'm sure a middle ground can be reached between slow growing and power feeding. It doesn't have to be one or the other. How about just "proper" feeding where you're not feeding an amount that results in obesity, nor are you skimping on meals to inhibit growth.
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You would probably be surprised what retic people consider "slow growing". I do it and I feed a decent size meal every 7-10 days for the first year, every two weeks for the next two years and then every 3-4 weeks after. Standard feeding schedule is 5-7 days for 2 yrs and every 2-3 weeks. Power feeding is as much as often as possible.
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06-03-14, 04:40 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
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Originally Posted by millertime89
You would probably be surprised what retic people consider "slow growing". I do it and I feed a decent size meal every 7-10 days for the first year, every two weeks for the next two years and then every 3-4 weeks after. Standard feeding schedule is 5-7 days for 2 yrs and every 2-3 weeks. Power feeding is as much as often as possible.
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As mentioned by Aaron, I guess it's to do with semantics. Usually when I hear the word "slow growing", I take that to be the extreme opposite of power feeding.
In that case why call it slow growing! lol. It's like people are so used to seeing breeders power feed that any normal regimen is thought of as slow growing. It's just proper growing.
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06-03-14, 05:16 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792
As mentioned by Aaron, I guess it's to do with semantics. Usually when I hear the word "slow growing", I take that to be the extreme opposite of power feeding.
In that case why call it slow growing! lol. It's like people are so used to seeing breeders power feed that any normal regimen is thought of as slow growing. It's just proper growing.
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I've got him blocked so I don't bother reading his posts. It's called slow growing because it is slower than a normal feeding schedule. The opposite of power feeding is maintenance feeding, ie feeding just enough for the animal to maintain size and weight.
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06-03-14, 05:45 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
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Originally Posted by millertime89
I've got him blocked so I don't bother reading his posts. It's called slow growing because it is slower than a normal feeding schedule. The opposite of power feeding is maintenance feeding, ie feeding just enough for the animal to maintain size and weight.
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ah lol, I wasn't aware there was a block function.
Anyways, that's very confusing. For example, if you put a young snake on a maintenance regimen, isn't that in a way starving the animal?(since you are keeping the snake from growing if your goal is to maintain size and weight).
And if slow growing is slower than a normal feeding schedule, wouldn't that kind of fit into my definition of these words?( slow growing being on the opposite end of power feeding...ie. slow growing - normal/proper growing - power feeding.)
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06-03-14, 08:09 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
The block function is useful. You still see that they posted, you just don't see what. You can then click "View Post" if you want to see what they said. I've got a few people blocked on here and they all know who they are. I don't know why they don't have me blocked since we seldom agree on anything and choose to not argue with them. It's just not worth my time and energy.
Eh, not really... Slow growing indicates the animal is still growing, maintenance feeding they're not, they're surviving. Power feeding isn't just giving them extra food or larger meals, it is feeding every chance possible. I'm talking every 2-3 days before they've even had a chance to digest their last meal. IMO there's 5 different feeding schedules that everyone's feeding regimens can fall under, power feeding, feeding extra, normal, slow grown, maintenance feeding. The middle 3 are all acceptable to me, the extremes are not. Power feeding is actually probably a bigger concern for me as it results in obesity which can lead to health and reproductive issues for the animal.
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