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01-20-14, 01:09 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
once I get him settled enough to eat a meal or two I will do that...I don't wanna move him so soon again  on another note, I have been looking up arboreal cages...not really liking a lot of the ones I see, and quite expensive...how are the exo-terra ones? they had those at the expo..18x18x18 ones...I know thats not big enough for an adult, but i'm sure they make them bigger? any suggestions?
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01-20-14, 01:21 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
I don't think moving him again will be much of a problem, it's the shipping that is stressful. It's just best to move him into a better setup asap.
which ones have you looked up?(arboreal cages). With green tree's length is still more important than height. A 4x2x2high will serve one better than a 2x2x4high. Green trees move horizontally from branch to branch more often than up and down.
I'm not a fan of glass cages for tropical species, plus with plastic enclosures you have more options for perching. You can drill holes in the sides to make for a more naturalistic perching system.
For example this is a stack I have and all the cages have perches using eye and hook screws. Can't do that with glass.
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01-20-14, 01:26 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
i looked up AP, boamaster, and boaphiles...popped into a few other sites that google brought up, but they were kinda crappy...may end up building one...was just looking at the RHP's on Reptile Basics...if I were to ultimately get a 3x2x2 or a 3x2x1.5 final enclosure how big of a RHP would it take to heat that?
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01-20-14, 01:28 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
RoughneckŪ Clear 66 Qt: (#3R42)
Size: 26.7" L x 15.7" W x 14" H
These are what I use for my neos. They are big yes, but you can fit in a RBI 28watt radiant heat panel by mounting it to the lid or the 40watt depending on house temp and where you live. VIOLA !!
Please ditch the lamp, your chondro will thank you tremendously.
This thing will take a while to grow so dont worry about adult setups yet. Get it rock solid for the first two years in a tub THEN make the move.
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01-20-14, 01:30 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
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Originally Posted by Sharlynn93
i looked up AP, boamaster, and boaphiles...popped into a few other sites that google brought up, but they were kinda crappy...may end up building one...was just looking at the RHP's on Reptile Basics...if I were to ultimately get a 3x2x2 or a 3x2x1.5 final enclosure how big of a RHP would it take to heat that?
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AP is definitely a good brand. So is PVCcages (they are the cages in the picture I just posted). Or constrictors NW.
Building one would also be an option.
For my 3x2x2 I would use either a 40 or 80 watt. I use 40 watt RHP's because I need my hotspot to be 90F or higher. With a hotspot of 85F i'd imagine an 80 watt would be good.
Does it get cold in the winter where you live?
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01-20-14, 01:31 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
that was exactly the info i was looking for Big V...thanks...I would rather get the 40watt and regulate it with a thermostat than get one that once I upgrade will be of no use to me...I will order one this week...may just put it on my credit card so I can order it today...the sooner I ditch the lamp the better...I'm not liking it at all...it worries me more than the not eating...
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01-20-14, 01:33 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
yes, gets very cold...my snake room is always the warmest room in the house, never gets below 70 in there...drops to about 66 everywhere else on the first floor...
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01-20-14, 01:41 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
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that was exactly the info i was looking for Big V...thanks...I would rather get the 40watt and regulate it with a thermostat than get one that once I upgrade will be of no use to me...I will order one this week...may just put it on my credit card so I can order it today...the sooner I ditch the lamp the better...I'm not liking it at all...it worries me more than the not eating...
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I use the 40w in my tubs. Just put the panel to one side, add a water dish under the RHP and one on the other side. Then you wont be spraying as much.
They drink water off themselves but they use waterbowls just like any other snake. They just do it at night, or when the water is freshly changed. I sometimes see mine drinking for 30 seconds to a minute at a time.
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01-20-14, 01:45 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
awesome...thanks!!!
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01-20-14, 10:29 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
RHP and thermostat is ordered (along with an extra stat in case of failure of any of our others) will be shopping for a tub tomorrow, and will get everything ready...stuff should be here by friday...
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01-29-14, 04:53 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
we decided to return Absolem to the breeder. He has not acted "right" since we got him...we were led to believe he was an established, well feeding animal, but upon receipt of his records a few days after bringing him home, we found out he was 29 weeks old, and only had 10 sporadic feedings...was super tiny, very thin, and we didn't feel he was going to thrive with us...we received a refund, and will someday in the future find a more reputable breeder and get a truly established yearling...thanks for all the help everyone...
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01-29-14, 07:36 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
Good choice. Good luck with finding a new baby.
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01-29-14, 07:51 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
I think a yearling suits the average snake collector much better.
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01-29-14, 10:39 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
Thanks, guys. Really disappointed that it didn't work out...but someday we will have one, I'm sure...
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01-29-14, 10:55 PM
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Re: GTP questions about behavior..help?
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Originally Posted by Sharlynn93
we decided to return Absolem to the breeder. He has not acted "right" since we got him...we were led to believe he was an established, well feeding animal, but upon receipt of his records a few days after bringing him home, we found out he was 29 weeks old, and only had 10 sporadic feedings...was super tiny, very thin, and we didn't feel he was going to thrive with us...we received a refund, and will someday in the future find a more reputable breeder and get a truly established yearling...thanks for all the help everyone...
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Impossible! The breeders were zoologists! How could the neonate not be PERFECT? They KNOW their animals. How could you say they sent you a neonate with previous issues... that's insulting to the zoologist breeders.
That was sarcasm.
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