The UVB Varanid debate ! - Page 8

formica · 01-13-14, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jarich

I have my latest results but they would not be particularly useful in this case either. My female was just going into egg production when I got them, so her calcium is through the roof, uric acid high, etc. However, none of these tests show a measure of the D metabolites, which is the only test that the difference would show up on.

any results are useful if they are accompanied by other info, for eg as you said, going into egg production - although we have to be cautious, as there are innumerable variables which only a specialist would be able to analyse properly

murrindindi · 01-13-14, 01:14 PM

Here`s one of your latest videos, towards the end the tube is clearly visible, and in no way is it just above their body as you say ("brush in direct contact with the tube")? My guess is that it IS around the 18inches above them you told me it was a couple of months ago.... (I didn`t forget, you obviously have)!
I still feel they are excellent candidates for testing as they have received decent care for the last 22 months (even without UVB exposure).

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murrindindi · 01-13-14, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jarich

I have my latest results but they would not be particularly useful in this case either. My female was just going into egg production when I got them, so her calcium is through the roof, uric acid high, etc. However, none of these tests show a measure of the D metabolites, which is the only test that the difference would show up on.

Hi Josh, it`s a shame you`ve only found out recently you have a female, I wonder how many times she`s been gravid in the past (I`m pretty sure she would have been)?
Have you thought about keeping a weight record, it would be very useful in watching for any sudden gains?

jarich · 01-13-14, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by murrindindi

Hi Josh, it`s a shame you`ve only found out recently you have a female, I wonder how many times she`s been gravid in the past (I`m pretty sure she would have been)?
Have you thought about keeping a weight record, it would be very useful in watching for any sudden gains?

Indeed it is. Im a little upset the first vet I took her to originally didnt catch it, but then she was quite young then.

I suppose I could keep weighing her, but I dont like lifting her up that often. She is fine with me touching her as long as I dont pick her up. Lifting her completely tends to get me the silent treatment for a few days.

murrindindi · 01-13-14, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jarich

Indeed it is. Im a little upset the first vet I took her to originally didnt catch it, but then she was quite young then.

I suppose I could keep weighing her, but I dont like lifting her up that often. She is fine with me touching her as long as I dont pick her up. Lifting her completely tends to get me the silent treatment for a few days.

Maybe you could make a platform to fit on top of some digital scales, leave some bits of food on top and get a measurement?
I remember Aja Michelle`s female gaining weight at times, Aja was never quite sure whether she was gravid or just too heavy (I personally thought she was gravid).

infernalis · 01-13-14, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by murrindindi

http://www.varanus.us/cage/cage.jpg

Hi Wayne, where`s the 24 inches of substrate, CLEARLY nowhere near, in spite of constantly telling everyone else they must have that depth as a minimum, plus it`s sloped up at on end, there`s even less depth on the right hand side!? I`m pretty sure when you got the UVB tube it was fixed on the roof (or very close to it, according to the pics you showed)? You put photos up on several websites at the time and told everyone "they even have UVB"!?
You quite recently informed me on another website (HC?) that the tube was now within 18 inches of them, it`s still too far to be of any benefit!
When I have a little time I`ll post the links to your comments and other photos... I do wish you`d stop contradicting yourself so regularly, it`s so darn confusing!

Try a photo that's not 2 years old.

murrindindi · 01-14-14, 11:28 AM

Hi Wayne, it`s good you`ve moved the tube closer, if they start to climb on it, the simplest thing would be to fit a reflector, that would double the effective distance and you could have it a little further away (simple)!
And that wasn`t a photo I showed it was the latest video you put on Youtube, published 19th December 2013.
By the way, I like choc-chip cookies, too....