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Old 12-14-13, 02:01 PM   #1
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sav stay in burrow all day

Hi all. My sav has been strange lately. He would come up and bask for a little and then return to his burrow for the rest of the day. It's been 3 days now that he's like that. He's male for sure due to his flower looking hemi-*****. Not sure what's wrong with him...
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Old 12-14-13, 02:12 PM   #2
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has the forum censored the word *****? looool! (edit: lol yes it has! can that be changed? its an anatomical word, not a swear word lol)

my Sav has times when he's a little less active, not worried about it myself, by all reports its pretty normal...
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hemipene

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well that test worked.

Anyways, use the scientific names and you are ok.
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Hi, if conditions above ground support activity it`s not "normal" for them to stay underground for several days at a time in captivity, has anything at all changed recently?
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Old 12-14-13, 03:33 PM   #6
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It's normal.

There have been a lot of recent reports of this behavioral difference.

Most likely the atmospheric differences in the changing season.

We can control temperatures, humidity and light cycles in enclosures, but barometric pressure is in natures hands unless you have compressors and vacuum pumps hooked to your cage. (sorry I had to)
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It's normal.

There have been a lot of recent reports of this behavioral difference.

Most likely the atmospheric differences in the changing season.

We can control temperatures, humidity and light cycles in enclosures, but barometric pressure is in natures hands unless you have compressors and vacuum pumps hooked to your cage. (sorry I had to)
Hi Wayne, can you link to some of that info? Thanks!
Edit: When you regularly report your monitors can stay underground for a couple of days or so, it surely cannot always be because of the barometric pressure, otherwise everyone`s would!?
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My storri are doing this, I attribute it to pressure changes and let them be.
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My storri are doing this, I attribute it to pressure changes and let them be.
Hi, haven`t you also been making changes in the enclosure?
Apart from during acclimation I can say NONE of my Varanids kept indoors here in the U.K have ever stayed underground for extended periods (maybe there is no barometric pressure in England)?
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Hi Wayne, can you link to some of that info? Thanks!
Edit: When you regularly report your monitors can stay underground for a couple of days or so, it surely cannot always be because of the barometric pressure, otherwise everyone`s would!?
For what it's worth, several Argus keepers on facebook were recently talking about their monitors spending a lot of time underground lately.
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Hm... end of the world?
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Old 12-14-13, 07:34 PM   #12
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jk.. I haven't changed anything lately. I have however been feeding the sav less food as discussed with you a few weeks ago. Maybe I'm underfeeding him.
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Re: sav stay in burrow all day

You can change the environment without realising you have!

Cooler country's will effect you monitor as well, depending on soil depth etc, you tend to have to turn up the heat in cooler country's & this alters humidity. Also deeper soil heated from above will cool down from the bottom upwards if left on a floor.

Even with carpets etc the cold fights it's way up from the bottom, this also sends the monitor into a reduced activity state.
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Old 12-15-13, 11:46 AM   #14
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jk.. I haven't changed anything lately. I have however been feeding the sav less food as discussed with you a few weeks ago. Maybe I'm underfeeding him.
Hi again, can you put a few pics up and give details of current conditions in the enclosure and room it`s in, also exactly what you`ve been feeding lately?
I doubt the monitor is staying underground because you`ve reduced the total amount of food, to my mind that would probably make him somewhat more active (improved body condition and relatively "hungry")?
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You can change the environment without realising you have!

Cooler country's will effect you monitor as well, depending on soil depth etc, you tend to have to turn up the heat in cooler country's & this alters humidity. Also deeper soil heated from above will cool down from the bottom upwards if left on a floor.

Even with carpets etc the cold fights it's way up from the bottom, this also sends the monitor into a reduced activity state.
Hi Mark, I would have thought these details would be the likeliest explanation, too?
It`s not to suggest that barometric pressure couldn`t have an effect also, just not my first thought, more especially if it`s a long term behaviour as I thought Wayne`s monitors exhibited (or maybe I`ve misunderstood him over the last year or so) and it`s quite a rare occurrence that regularly gets mentioned?
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