feed in or out

rhiannon79 · 10-26-13, 07:52 AM

This is my question I have had mixed mixed reviews should I move my ball to a feeding bow or let him eat in his enclosure he will not eat f/t he eats live small white mice right now 3 one right after the other once a week and ? 2 . I really dont like the look of tge news paper so I am thinking of using the kitter krumble because another member said it holds moisture well i was using eco earth before the newspaper but it gets so dusty and while feeding in his enclosure enclosure as some had instructed he got a mouth gull of dirt wish I was very concerned about thank goodness he was fine just curious of ur thoughts

shaunyboy · 10-26-13, 08:15 AM

i feed my Carpets inside their tanks,its where the snake feels most secure

i use newspaper substrate so i have no issues with substrate mate

cheers shaun

Starbuck · 10-26-13, 08:37 AM

I feed all my snakes in their cages, they are on large chunk cypress mulch.
Switching to larger prey (rats) would mean you only have to feed him one prey item, which means he is only at risk of swallowing substrate once (rather than 3 times), not that swallowing small amounts of aubstrate is a big deal anyways. Just a thought. You could also use unprinted butcher paper if you don't like newspaper.

rhiannon79 · 10-26-13, 08:57 AM

I feed smaller prey because of the huge teeth on bigger prey what do you think the probability of my snake getting hurt from larger prey

thinkbig317 · 10-26-13, 09:14 AM

I vote for inside enclosure as well. As long as the temps are correct you shouldnt have to worry about impaction. I also agree on feeding larger prey. As long as u monitor the feeding session everything should be cool. Dont just leave the rat in there and walk away.

MDT · 10-26-13, 09:56 AM

I would bet that in their natural environment snakes will accidentally/unintentionally ingest a whole lotta stuff (i.e. their "substrate") on a fairly regular basis.

I would also recommend feeding in their enclosure. Feeding in a "feeding tub" or whatever is a lot of unneccessary work.

thinkbig is right, if the husbandry is good, you should be good to go...

**Aaron_S** · 10-26-13, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rhiannon79

I feed smaller prey because of the huge teeth on bigger prey what do you think the probability of my snake getting hurt from larger prey

Your snake looks like it has an entire stuck shed on it.

shaunyboy · 10-26-13, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Your snake looks like it has an entire stuck shed on it.

^^^^^
this

imo your snake has retained at least one or more shed's, going by your picture mate

cheers shaun

rhiannon79 · 10-26-13, 11:44 AM

He is shedding it came the rest of the way off last night he had made a mess with poop and pee so I had to change out the newspaper so I got him out before he was finished shedding it all I just snapped a few while I hade him out but yeah he did still have some stuck on his back in the pics give me a few and I'll snap dome more of him fully shed

rhiannon79 · 10-26-13, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by shaunyboy

^^^^^
this

imo your snake has retained at least one or more shed's, going by your picture mate

cheers shaun

He has always shed completely never had any problems with it but I'll keep a close watch

SnoopySnake · 10-26-13, 11:50 AM

Feeding outside the enclosure could add unnecessary stress from handling and cause your snake to regurge, plus imo it's unnecessary work also.. When your BP gets to be his full size, I'm going to imagine feeding in a tub may be quite difficult.. If your snake ingests a bit of substrate it shouldn't be a problem, as long as your temps are up to par, also I agree with what someone else said about moving up prey size.. How long have you had him?

desipooh.12 · 10-26-13, 12:10 PM

There's alot of controversy about this,
As I to thought it be better to feed outside of its enclosure,
But I NEVER had no issues with it at all,
Ate everytime & no stress..
But when I finally took a different direction,
I feed the F/T in its enclosure & everything was fine,
Just keep an eye on em till its done feeding..
Why don't you feed em F/T???? Safer..

**Aaron_S** · 10-26-13, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rhiannon79

He is shedding it came the rest of the way off last night he had made a mess with poop and pee so I had to change out the newspaper so I got him out before he was finished shedding it all I just snapped a few while I hade him out but yeah he did still have some stuck on his back in the pics give me a few and I'll snap dome more of him fully shed

There's a humidity issue if you have a snake shed off it's head and then back first.

Also, next time, just let the snake shed then clean the bin. Much easier.

rhiannon79 · 10-26-13, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SnoopySnake

Feeding outside the enclosure could add unnecessary stress from handling and cause your snake to regurge, plus imo it's unnecessary work also.. When your BP gets to be his full size, I'm going to imagine feeding in a tub may be quite difficult.. If your snake ingests a bit of substrate it shouldn't be a problem, as long as your temps are up to par, also I agree with what someone else said about moving up prey size.. How long have you had him?

I've had him seven months and he will not eat f/t I have tried on several occasions when he was smaller for almost two months when I first got him he was not interested at all so after that I put in live and he was all over it immediately I wish he would eat f/t it would surely bring my stress level down

rhiannon79 · 10-26-13, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

There's a humidity issue if you have a snake shed off it's head and then back first.

Also, next time, just let the snake shed then clean the bin. Much easier.

I will defently wait next time I just switched to a newspaper substrate and yes I agree I am trying to work on the humidity since I changed to news paper it just keeps changeing I am working on it going to go to kritter krumble someone said that held moisture real well I mentioned the shedding issue in another thread he usually has no problem what so ever but hes been in a super good mood and he foes still have some shed on his neck area but I think u are all correct about the humidity one day I hope to be able to get this down hate to think im not a good snake owner I am trying my best until earlier this month when I found this site with all the wonderful members I've learned alot thank you all