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06-19-13, 08:42 PM
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2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
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06-19-13, 08:45 PM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
Oh wow. Were they alive?
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06-19-13, 08:47 PM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
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Originally Posted by poison123
Oh wow. Were they alive?
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No. Dead in the egg.
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06-19-13, 09:41 PM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
Wow, you gonna keep those preserved somehow?
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06-19-13, 10:48 PM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
Wow those are amazing! Have the two who were mated produced like this before?
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06-20-13, 02:13 AM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
Never seen that before I guess the chances are slim to none.
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06-20-13, 03:41 AM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
could there have been any cleaning product/chemical or drug in the incubators/that came into contact with the eggs? Thats seems so odd that you would get two in one clutch, for it not to be environmental.
I suppose it could have been genetic as well, or just random chance, but very interesting nontheless.
If you decide you dont want them, i would contact the vet college nearest to you, they often maintain collections of oddities like this, and may be able to tell you what may have caused it (i.e. if sheep eat a certain plant during pregnancy, their lambs are almost always born with severe defects, like cyclops etc...).
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06-20-13, 04:30 AM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
I would run out and buy a lottery ticket asap 
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06-20-13, 06:08 AM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
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Originally Posted by Starbuck
could there have been any cleaning product/chemical or drug in the incubators/that came into contact with the eggs? Thats seems so odd that you would get two in one clutch, for it not to be environmental.
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We do not use any cleaning products or chemicals in or around the reptile rooms. We do not disinfect anything at all. Incubators and methods have not changed.
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I suppose it could have been genetic as well, or just random chance, but very interesting nontheless.
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Siamese or conjoined twining is generally not genetic or environmental. Twinning can be genetic and I just think the odds for them getting conjoined was unfortunately in our favor.
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If you decide you dont want them, i would contact the vet college nearest to you, they often maintain collections of oddities like this, and may be able to tell you what may have caused it (i.e. if sheep eat a certain plant during pregnancy, their lambs are almost always born with severe defects, like cyclops etc...).
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Unfortunately, I do not feel a vet college or even a good herp vet can say what caused this.
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06-20-13, 06:09 AM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
That's sad, but amazing!
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06-20-13, 06:18 AM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
Maybe a fluctuation in temps?
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06-20-13, 07:30 AM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
Woah that second one looks like a sea monster. Too bad for the lizards, but it's kinda cool to study just the same.
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06-20-13, 09:09 AM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
I would put them in a sealed jar with alcohol or formaldehyde.
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06-20-13, 02:40 PM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
Too much inbreeding?
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06-20-13, 09:26 PM
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Re: 2 sets of siamese twins. What are the chances?
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Maybe a fluctuation in temps?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nepoez
Too much inbreeding?
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Not sure how these two things would cause twins.
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