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04-12-13, 02:07 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by jarich
The more this progresses the more Im inclined to just think that it had multiple layers of stuck shed. Neither scale rot nor burns would heal this quickly and cleanly. The scales underneath look a little pink, but otherwise undamaged. I think you may have just given it the moisture it needed to finally slough off all those layers of skin.
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but before she said it was bleeding and peeling??
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04-12-13, 02:23 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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but before she said it was bleeding and peeling??
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Six layers of caked on bad shed will do that.
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04-12-13, 02:34 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Six layers of caked on bad shed will do that.
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oh, ew, poor lil sav  well hope all goes well and it heals nice and she becomes the monster they all should be!
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04-12-13, 02:56 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
I still think its scale rot. Because the chunks look black but they are red. either way, shes healing nicely 
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04-12-13, 05:37 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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either way, shes healing nicely |
and that's all that matters. 
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04-15-13, 04:09 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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looks good, just dont keep her/him out of the enclosure too long you dont want the core body temp to drop and wanna keep them in the humidity i take mine out and let him run around for about 5 mins maybe less then back in the enclosure he goes. Hes happier there lol.
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04-15-13, 05:14 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
Nah she just came out for a quick photo shoot
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04-15-13, 08:21 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Nah she just came out for a quick photo shoot |
cool, i love taking mine out, wish i could let him out more, but i want to make sure he stays at his proper temps lol and needs to be in his enclosure to achieve that :P
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04-16-13, 01:25 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires
cool, i love taking mine out, wish i could let him out more, but i want to make sure he stays at his proper temps lol and needs to be in his enclosure to achieve that :P
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U do knw they can hold there temp for a while right ....a warm house shouldn't touch there core temp ??
Larger sp can retain a good temperature for a while as they don't need to bask every 10 mins the larger the sp the longer it can hold its temp ....
Take for instance if they couldn't handle the drop in ambient temp for long how could u explain aquatic species staying in the water other than for a thermogradient or take maybe komodos swimming from island to island ... Now that is a real drop with no adverse affects to core temp drop.
Not to mention burrow temps and night time lows ...
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04-16-13, 02:04 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by V87
U do knw they can hold there temp for a while right ....a warm house shouldn't touch there core temp ??
Larger sp can retain a good temperature for a while as they don't need to bask every 10 mins the larger the sp the longer it can hold its temp ....
Take for instance if they couldn't handle the drop in ambient temp for long how could u explain aquatic species staying in the water other than for a thermogradient or take maybe komodos swimming from island to island ... Now that is a real drop with no adverse affects to core temp drop.
Not to mention burrow temps and night time lows ...
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im not so much concerned about temps as i am humidity.
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04-16-13, 05:53 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires
cool, i love taking mine out, wish i could let him out more, but i want to make sure he stays at his proper temps lol and needs to be in his enclosure to achieve that :P
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He wont become ill and dehydrated from an hour...
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04-16-13, 07:02 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
I take mine out in the reptile room, but my house is pretty damn cold.
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04-16-13, 10:47 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by V87
U do knw they can hold there temp for a while right ....a warm house shouldn't touch there core temp ??
Larger sp can retain a good temperature for a while as they don't need to bask every 10 mins the larger the sp the longer it can hold its temp ....
Take for instance if they couldn't handle the drop in ambient temp for long how could u explain aquatic species staying in the water other than for a thermogradient or take maybe komodos swimming from island to island ... Now that is a real drop with no adverse affects to core temp drop.
Not to mention burrow temps and night time lows ...
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Hi, when you say a "warm" house, how warm? Unless it`s close to their natural habitat, their core body temps most certainly DO drop.
They don`t operate at one specific temp, they have a range.
As far as some of the semi aquatic species, some of the waters they inhabit are actually warmer than the land at certain times, and these species also operate at somewhat lower "activity" temps.
The temps in the burrows/hides are often significantly higher than the outside air temps.
As you say, the larger the animal the longer it can operate before needing to bask, but some of the small species and all hatchling/juvenile monitors will lose heat very quickly.
I think it`s a good thing to allow a fully acclimated monitor "outside" time when possible (outside the enclosure), not only for the excercise, but also for mental stimulation, they are by nature "explorers", to my mind it`s enrichment, and they surely need that, having to spend so much time in their tiny matchboxes!
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04-16-13, 11:25 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by murrindindi
Hi, when you say a "warm" house, how warm? Unless it`s close to their natural habitat, their core body temps most certainly DO drop.
They don`t operate at one specific temp, they have a range.
As far as some of the semi aquatic species, some of the waters they inhabit are actually warmer than the land at certain times, and these species also operate at somewhat lower "activity" temps.
The temps in the burrows/hides are often significantly higher than the outside air temps.
As you say, the larger the animal the longer it can operate before needing to bask, but some of the small species and all hatchling/juvenile monitors will lose heat very quickly.
I think it`s a good thing to allow a fully acclimated monitor "outside" time when possible (outside the enclosure), not only for the excercise, but also for mental stimulation, they are by nature "explorers", to my mind it`s enrichment, and they surely need that, having to spend so much time in their tiny matchboxes!
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I agree with u about being out of the box It should b encouraged IMO ... And i knw they work at a range of temps .... sucking eggs right about now ....But I merely saying that 5 mins out of a viv isn't going to drop the core temp of a healthy warm monitor .... also would love to b interested in the water that is warmer than land surface temps in the midday sun ??? And the lows of night time temps ...????
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