Savannah Monitor Redemption - Page 4

smy_749 · 03-22-13, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires

perfectly normal.. people dont see their monitors for days/weeks

People *who understand monitor behavior and respect it* don't see their monitors for days/weeks. People who want to see their monitor everyday will do so, ruining all sense of security in the process (nothing to do with the original poster, but deadlys post reminded me of one of the main reasons people are disappointed keeping monitors when they watch you tube videos of dave durham calling his by name and sleeping with them on the couch.

nepoez · 03-22-13, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

People *who understand monitor behavior and respect it* don't see their monitors for days/weeks. People who want to see their monitor everyday will do so, ruining all sense of security in the process (nothing to do with the original poster, but deadlys post reminded me of one of the main reasons people are disappointed keeping monitors when they watch you tube videos of dave durham calling his by name and sleeping with them on the couch.

If that's normal then I'm relieved. But I just felt worried because I thought babies will need to eat daily, and not coming out for days would mean starvation?

nepoez · 03-22-13, 08:15 AM

Wait... There seems to be a thin line b/t what I described, and what a lethargic and unhealthy monitor is... lethargic monitors will not move much... and normal monitors will not come out for days...

jarich · 03-22-13, 08:40 AM

I have to agree. Id be very concerned if I didnt see my monitor for days or weeks, or at the very least evidence that they had been out for that long. Since yours are young, it may be that they are just only coming out when you are not around. In which case, thats fine. But if they arent coming out at all, that means you have a problem with your enclosure. Im guessing since yours are young, they are scared of you and so not coming out when youre around. Just leave the bugs in the enclosure and then they have the option of eating when they want to.

nepoez · 03-22-13, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jarich

I have to agree. Id be very concerned if I didnt see my monitor for days or weeks, or at the very least evidence that they had been out for that long. Since yours are young, it may be that they are just only coming out when you are not around. In which case, thats fine. But if they arent coming out at all, that means you have a problem with your enclosure. Im guessing since yours are young, they are scared of you and so not coming out when youre around. Just leave the bugs in the enclosure and then they have the option of eating when they want to.

Well honestly I haven't been near the cage much so they aren't scared due to my presence, I put a web cam there(with motion alarm) so I know exactly what goes on and when something moves.

That's why I know 1 of the 2 came out yesterday for 10 minutes out of the whole day, that's exactly what happened. He did eat 1 cricket on camera. But the other never came out, unless when he went back in after the first 5 minutes, the other came back out in his place haha, but I don't think so.

Hopefully this is due to the fact that they just moved into my tank and they are not used to the env yet... But I'll observe for a few more days and see what happens.

nepoez · 03-22-13, 08:52 AM

Oh and Grendel and Jay who voted that my monitors will die soon. Please give insight on the reasons of their deaths so I can correct it. Just voting that they will die soon doesn't help me. Thanks!

smy_749 · 03-22-13, 09:00 AM

Just because you don't seem him out, doesn't mean he isn't out. My little roughneck is always out, just that when I walk towards the cage, he gets ready to dart into his burrow, and sure enough, when I peak in his cage, all I see is the end of his tail. Leave the food in there, he will eat it if hes healthy and hungry. Just make sure I guess that he has no reason to stay underground (humidity is ok, he has good basking, and its not TOO hot for him) and be patient. I dont know where I saw it, but someone had videos up of them tying food to a string, and dangling it in the monitors cage. I've been doing it, I have a fuzzy dangling mid air in his cage, and its very losely clipped onto one of those black paper clamps (dying may cause him to swallow the string)...its almost like a puzzle and having to make him work for it if hes shy to take from tongs still I guess. Sorry if that didn't make any sense I havent slept. Time to go to a wedding

nepoez · 03-22-13, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

Just because you don't seem him out, doesn't mean he isn't out. My little roughneck is always out, just that when I walk towards the cage, he gets ready to dart into his burrow, and sure enough, when I peak in his cage, all I see is the end of his tail. Leave the food in there, he will eat it if hes healthy and hungry. Just make sure I guess that he has no reason to stay underground (humidity is ok, he has good basking, and its not TOO hot for him) and be patient. I dont know where I saw it, but someone had videos up of them tying food to a string, and dangling it in the monitors cage. I've been doing it, I have a fuzzy dangling mid air in his cage, and its very losely clipped onto one of those black paper clamps (dying may cause him to swallow the string)...its almost like a puzzle and having to make him work for it if hes shy to take from tongs still I guess. Sorry if that didn't make any sense I havent slept. Time to go to a wedding

Not your own wedding I hope lol jk

nepoez · 03-22-13, 09:29 AM

p.s. I just wanted to share that I am using a technology to monitor my monitors(no pun intended LOLOL)

OK It's called iCam... so

- I got a ip camera(actually an old phone) setup by the tank, and it sees the tank.
- I got a software(free) called icamSource running on my computer, which has motion detection algorithms running, and will record(optional) and report any moving events(sensitivity is configurable)
- I got an app called iCam on my phone, that will BEEP when something moves in the tank.

On my phone I can look at my tank anytime anywhere, and I can also view and motion event footages anytime anywhere, meaning the computer will record the footages whenever a motion is detect so you can watch it later on(via my phone anytime anwhere) to see all the movements in the tank. This is how I know exactly what happens in my tank. I've tuned it so crickets will not be considered a motion even, but a monitor will be. This is a great setup if you wanna monitor your monitors without spooking them! You also won't have to glue your eyes to the phone because the motion detection will alert you as soon as something moves!

Pirarucu · 03-22-13, 11:13 AM

Baby monitors are very shy, their first priority is to not be eaten. Wayne's weren't out much either when he first got them, and his cage was much less bare. Clutter up the cage and they will get bolder.
I will also say that they don't necessarily need to come out to eat. Some bugs will inevitably wander down into the seemingly safe burrows, and the Savs can just dart out and snag passing insects when they need to.

nepoez · 03-22-13, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pirarucu

Baby monitors are very shy, their first priority is to not be eaten. Wayne's weren't out much either when he first got them, and his cage was much less bare. Clutter up the cage and they will get bolder.
I will also say that they don't necessarily need to come out to eat. Some bugs will inevitably wander down into the seemingly safe burrows, and the Savs can just dart out and snag passing insects when they need to.

starting at 10:45 I started getting some notifications about 1 of them coming out to roam/bask a little and back in. And when I walk by he runs back in. Always just 1 though, not sure if it's the same one I can't tell them apart yet since they don't really give me the chance just yet. Hopefully they are taking turns instead of one of them not being healthy... but again, I do know one of them is more shy than the other since the first day..

I'll give an update in a couple days.. I'll see what I can find to make the place more cluttered.

nepoez · 03-22-13, 01:10 PM

p.s. based on the video logs I captured, 1 monitor is very very active and roams around for hours.. while the other never comes out of the burrow.

murrindindi · 03-22-13, 02:51 PM

Hi again, I buy plastic plants on Ebay, so try there, ferns and other relatively large "leafy" types are best, they are quite cheap to buy (at least over here in England). Do not buy the small aquarium plants, much too small and more expensive (especially from petshops).
If you can get some stout branches it will allow them to use more of the space, they love exploring, and get to know every sq cm of their "home" (up, down, and all around)!

smy_749 · 03-22-13, 05:07 PM

I dont know about canada or england, but over here, walmart and joannes fabric, michelles, any place with a "arts and crafts" section will have plants of all sizes. Last time I was in walmart they had some decent sized ferns for 80 cents so I bought like...15 of them.

nepoez · 03-22-13, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

I dont know about canada or england, but over here, walmart and joannes fabric, michelles, any place with a "arts and crafts" section will have plants of all sizes. Last time I was in walmart they had some decent sized ferns for 80 cents so I bought like...15 of them.

this fern is plastic right?